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BG have written this week to advise haven't replied to letters or received payment so they are applying for warrant to remove meter.

Have just spoken to BG and they say they actually applied for warrant the day before their letter is dated

 

Have several recent webchat transcripts with BG and have been paying £10/month due to hardship.

BG just say that's not enough as the debt is large - over £1k - and has been large for a long time.

Haven't been in the property for more than 2y and the debt is for usage up to that point.

 

The letter says 'what will happen if we don't hear from you' - that their 'application for warrant of entry will be heard at court.  You can go to hearing and make representations against their application'.

 

The letter also says you 'have the right to ask for a hearing to take place at a court in your local area....  If you wish to do this please call xxx within 21 days from the date of this letter or complete enclosed form and send it to .....   A local court hearing will be arranged.    If you do not ask for a court hearing the case will be heard in your absence without any further notice.'

The letter continues to say ' if warrant granted, it will allow them to enter your property to fit a pay as you go meter w/o giving you any notice.  From the date the warrant is granted we have 28 days to do this'.

 

The letter also states 'you can stop all of this happening if you call before 5pm the night before the warrant visit and pay what owe.

When you call they can also discuss ways to manage the account'.

 

The letter also has a section which says - if you are having trouble paying in full we can help.  call us as there are lots of ways we can help'

 

So BG just said they already applied for warrant on 18/07.  That is a Sunday and is the day before their letter is dated.

BG said the court hearing date - remote - is already fixed for 09/08 and the date for execution already set for 16/08.

 

This doesn't seem correct.

What can be done?

 

 

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let them do it? is the premises occupied?

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The property should be unoccupied.

The debt relates to arrears - my usage up to a date.

There should have been zero usage from that date.

edf and tw have been very supportive - I pay them nominal amount monthly. 

But BG have refused to allow me to set up a nominal monthly amount.    I just started paying them £10 without a payment plan just so they were getting some £s and to try prevent this situation.

 

Should I just let them remove it and fit a prepayment meter?    I would prefer they do not remove the meter - my absence is temporary, albeit extended.

But I do also see potential benefits.

 

If I could afford to repay in full now I would.   Reduced circumstances and covid lack of work prevents.

If they would allow me 6 months of nominal payments I would continue - with a view to hopeful changed circumstances which would allow to repay in full thereafter.   That is what I requested.   Interestingly their webchat suggested £165/m would work for them (altho thats impossible for me).   

Yet the warrants dept rep was very aggressive and said that is not possible - they just want to get the warrant and replace the meter.

Of course, they are making the situation worse by adding £160 costs to 'my' debt.

 

This situation is a tiny part of a much much larger issue.

The property should not have been occupied and no utilities should have been used.  The reality is that 'others' did occupy and use utilities, and worse, the property was completely destroyed - illegally and on purpose.   Its very complicated - but it is being resolved legally.  Hopefully with a positive resolution within 6 months.   

At which point the £ difference in between readings would be cleared by the other party.  And the compensation would clear my debts.  Which is why i have asked for  further 6 months.   

I haven't disclosed the larger issue as it would be too complicated and I just did not want to go there.  Its so (too) stressful.

I would just prefer to retain the old normal meter and in 2022 continue as before.

 

The potential benefit to allowing BG to remove existing meter and replace with prepayment is that the meter will remain in my name, BG will provide me with a prepayment key, and no-one else will be able to illegally use the supply until the wider legal issue is resolved.

Replacing the meter will crystalize the amount owed as of the removal date.  However, the amount is going to be much larger due to 'others' usage.   And that much larger amount - probably many 000s now - will be added to my debt / credit file  - until the wider legal issue is resolved....

 

I guess I am wondering if I could ask the warrant court hearing to grant the 6 months reprieve to allow the wider legal issue to be resolved?

 

 

 

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Let them install the prepayment meter, as the debt will be added to the meter.  if you are not there to use supplies, then you won't be paying toward the debt. 

 

In tbe future, if you are in a better position, then reduce the debt to a level where BG would not block any swtich and arrange new supply contract with another company asking for the meter to be changed back.

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the debt was apx 1500.

I suspect that it is probably going to be 5k+ usage by 'others'.  That amount will be added to my name.  

BG will freak when they see the real reading

 

Just as an aside - the meter is external.  There's a low locked gate and a few steps.  Would BG climb over?  Or would they use a locksmith to break the gate lock?

 

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if there is no external gas tap in the meter box to shut off the supply before they remove the meter and cap the feed pipe, then home would be entered . they typically enter the home too anyway to ensure that no gas central heating is present and shut it off 1st too.

 

external gates /gardens are not regarded as 'property'

 

if the warrant states as you have said removal , the above will happen regardless. i'd not go for a PP meter as that will result in standing charges. let them cap it. wont add to your bill going forward until/unless you wish to re-establish connection.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Pipe, meter and lever are all external.

BG said intention is to replace existing with prepayment meter

Property is now alarmed.

Are you suggesting they may go inside anyway?

 

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i would inform BG that the property is vacant ALL gas appliances are disconnected from the gas supply or isolated/off, else they will force entry upon safety reasons.

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and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Gas appliances will be internally connected.

No-one should be inside and using any utility. But things are connected.

Not an expert on this - but years ago BG turned off the supply cos of a suspected leak.  They didn't turn off anything inside.  Why would they need to go inside if they have the ability to switch off the gas outside?

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I think they have to go inside to complete a safety check on gas appliances.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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