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OPS 2xPCN's - Machine said Not In Use - Llangrannog (Beach) car park, West Wales - to POPLA or not to POPLA?


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I continue to refer to it as a "fine" partly as a wind-up, but also because it is a fine in all but name. It's not going to affect my decision as to whether to contest it though. I have almost made up my mind to do so, but I have until 22nd June to pay the reduced amount, so I may chicken out before then

 

I have attached a PDF with the PCNs in - photographed with my phone, so I hope it's legible.

 

Thanks for links to those other threads. I'll have a read through

 

 

 

PCNs.pdf

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I have just found this on Trust Pilot

WWW.TRIPADVISOR.COM

Llangrannog Beach: AVOID BEACH FRONT PARKING nothin to do with the locals - See 362 traveler reviews, 191 candid photos, and great deals for Llangrannog, UK, at Tripadvisor.

There are over 70 complaints about your OPS in Llangrannog car park. Spread over several years with the machine not working and the phone coverage non existent the crooks are making money hand over fist.

 

However the Courts take a dim view of motorists being charged consistently when their apparatus is out of order and they know phone coverage is poor.

 

As they are making money this way there is no compulsion on them to get their ticket machine working. As such they will not be able to claim that their charges are justified.

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re from above...

The owner of the Car Park is the same owner as the Ship Inn - Solomon Anthony Ramsey-Williams.

 

AVOID THIS CAR PARK AND 100% AVOID HIS PUB - THE SHIP INN.
UTTER CON ARTIST!

 

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Great work lookinforinfo.  So the OP now has a mound of evidence that the car park owner and OPS are running a scam (and am sure could easily get more proof).

 

If the OP ever does get a Letter Before Claim it would be fun to send OPS a snotty letter and Solomon Anthony Ramsey-Williams a letter that he would be added as a third party to any court action.  I reckon that would knock the smile off his smug, scamming face and get the ticket cancelled pronto. 

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shame as usual nearly everyone on trip advisor thinks they are fines that they must by default be paid.

 

it would be good to hit that trip advisor page that with some useful CORRECT advise and explanation en-masse.

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thank you, Lookinforinfo, for that Trip Advisor link. I don't think I'll be short of evidence now

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