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Following your post on what information you require here goes;

 

1) Date of infringement: 15/05/2021

2) Date on the NTK (this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date).

NTK Dated 27/05/2021,

3) Date received

Today - 05/06/2021 - no markings on envelope to prove posting etc.

4) Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedom Act 2012? 

No

5) Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Yes

6) Have you appealed?

No

7) Who is the parking company?

CP Plus

😎 Where exactly (car park name & town)

Crown Wharf, Walsall. WS2 8LL

9) Official Body 

BPA

 

Will scan both sides of document and will post as single PDF file once personal info removed shortly.

 

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Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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  • dx100uk changed the title to CPP ANPR PCN - Crown Wharf, Walsall. WS2 8LL

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Apologies for the delay, I am having great difficulties trying to scan the document - however, I have taken photograpghs and when trying to upload them it says they are too large, but then I note the accepted file types :(

 

Please can you advise how I can get these images to fit and upload? TIA

Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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Car Park.pdf

 

Finally managed to attach, hope this is legible.

 

We have appealed today (just within the 14 days of 2nd reminder) and await their polite decline to agree our appeal and will post up again when it arrives.

 

Thanks Peeps :)

 

 

Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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where do we say on any thread here to appeal?

 

you've probably just admitted who the driver was and lost your protection under POFA2012?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The NTK is not compliant so the keeper is not liable if the driver doesn't pay. If you were the driver and admitted it in your appeal then you may have lost nothing. If you were not the driver and you didn't reveal who was driving then as long as it stays that way you are in the clear. 

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Dx100 you pointed me to a previous case in your post of 5th June and I followed that advice.

 

Hadn't parked up, so no breach!

 

Lookingforinfo, how does the NTK not comply? Please explain 

Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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Wires have got crossed here.

 

dx was only pointing out that the car park is known to us and used to be run by Parking Eye.  The advice in that thread to appeal from way back in January 2017 is now well out of date.

 

The fleecers are supposed to get their tripe to you within 14 days under POFA, but failed to do so.

 

In your appeal did you out the driver?  If so it was a mistake.  However, hardly a fatal one.  We have a mountain of cases here where the driver was outed naively in an appeal, but the motorist still went on to hammer the PPC.

 

What do the fleecers reckon you did wrong then?  Was it a P&D car park and you didn't pay?  Was that 'cos you couldn't find a space?  If you can briefly describe what happened it would help.

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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The driver is 'outed' naively,  sorry, crossed wires!

The driver had been looking for a space, but had a 3 month old baby in the car screaming so abandoned the trip.

The driver had not been to this area before, but relatives had said it had been 90 minutes free parking, but as they hadn't parked was surprised to have received this.

Naturally distracted by events in the vehicle they weren't looking for signage on P&D.

 

Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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Don't worry, you still have quite enough to see the fleecers off.  Have a look at this case  http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2014/03/waiting-for-space-is-not-parking.html

 

It would be very useful if your relatives could go to the car park the same day & time as you did, and photograph it full (plus takes snaps of the signage).

We could do with some help from you.

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The PCN is invalid for two reasons at least.

 

The first one is that the PCN must arrive within 14 days of the alleged offence. Even if it was posted on the 27th May, two working days are estimated to be the delivery time so that would be Monday the 31st May as Saturday is not classed as a working day. It is doubtful that it was posted on the 27th considering the date you actually received it. 

 

The second reason is that if you look at The Protection of Freedoms Act 2007  paragraph 9 section 2 [f]  the PCN wording does not comply with what it should say in the ACT. the act says it must comply so that means that the keeper is not liable to pay if the driver doesn't. However as it appears that the driver has admitted driving then that avenue has gone.

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Nothing has been received since, so it maybe wishful thinking that this has gone away?

Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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very wishful

 

they have 6yrs .....dont move without informing them of new address

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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6 years? Really?

 

I wouldn't have known that!

Santander PPI X 2 **WON** claims on behalf of son (Oct 2010/ Mar 2011)

Citicard O/H (PPI) - **WON** Compound Interest Dec 2011

Citicard O/H (Charges) Bailiffs sent in August 2012

Barclaycard - **WON** Compound Interest Oct 2011

Monument - account information being sought for OH

Citicard - self - N1 submitted August 2012

Barclaycard - self - **WON** damages for non disclosure/information now rec'd. Aug 2012

Barclaycard - relation - Failed SAR sent 29/09/11

Halifax SAR sent 18/08/2011 for relation

LTSB - SAR sent 09/08/2011 for friend

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having been here 10yrs+ i'm sure you met up with the 6yrs statute of limitation many times.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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