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This has been kicking around for a while about Johnson's dealings with Alexander Lebedev, father of Evening Standard owner Lord Lebedev. Places like the Byline Times and others.

 

Johnson finally admitted yesterday to the Liaison commiittee that he spoke to Lebedev senior without security or other staff being involved, when he was a minister.

 

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Yvette Cooper requests more details about Boris Johnson’s meeting with Alexander Lebedev in Italy in 2018

 

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seems most people  who been asked have said they still want the Tories to be in power as no one trusts the other parties!  rotflmao

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all over internet HB, Mainly on craphoo ( yahoo! ) and f/b spotted pages

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A link would be handy please. :)

 

In other news, senior Tories are saying Johnson wants to stay on as caretaker PM because of a planned wedding bash at Chequers.

 

 
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Senior Tories claim Boris Johnson is clinging to power in part so that he and wife Carrie can host lavish bash at Chequers to mark their marriage, which...

 

He has form for not leaving grace and favour residences.

 

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The former foreign secretary remained rent-free in his grace-and-favour flat a stone's throw from Buckingham Palace for three weeks after storming out...

 

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re

'Johnsons playing for time and will try to cheat his way into continuing'

 

as do I - no doubts whatsoever

 

 

 

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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2 hours ago, snowdragon said:

all over internet HB, Mainly on craphoo ( yahoo! ) and f/b spotted pages

 

aka trolls and bots?

It is the norm for right (and left) wing so called populist concepts and support.

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Breaking:

In addition to Suella Braverman announcing her bid for leadership of the Conpervative party on her 'one law for us' platform

 

.. Grant Shapps, Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox announce their leadership bids on a 'no second jobs without second names' platform

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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so tell us the TJ, who in your opinion should be next PM or even what party to ruin us, oh sorry meant run the country

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Wallace, if he promises and actions a clean-up (fat chance), with Rabb (or May) as a caretaker until then

or back to the people with preferably a lib-dem/labour coalition

.. and the Tory populists/ERG etc all losing their seats - (no issue with few real remaining conservatives winning seats - they are needed)

 

There simply is NOT a Tory party at the moment, no matter how much Russian and right wing trolls and bots (and their cheerleaders) might claim differently.

Just like there is quite rightly no real support for the other wannabe dictatorship - Corbuncle

 

 

What we will probably end up with is Baker hard right with more power until a GE - but I HOPE not.

 

 

Whats your hopes SD?

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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nothing TJ, All politicians are liars and break promises once they get in, they need try living on        the pittance most people get now, I do not support ant  party at all

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Gone but never forgotten,Little Miss Sunshine, Alisha Marie. 15/12/2005 ~ ~ 13/02/2006

Our  beloved Dalmatian Jazz,  gone to join Wal at Rainbow Bridge, hope you are now pain free .  20/9/2005 ~ ~ 24/3/2019

 

 

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As I've said before, for me, for many years its been choosing what i perceive as the lessor evil and hope that doing such by enough people would generate improvement rather than deteriation

 

Do you really think that Starmer is as bad as Johnson or Patel?

If so - expand and explain why?

 

Think

Is someone who accidentally trod on an ant the same as a mass murderer

and is someone who isnt perfect really on a par with a lying corrupt ****** like Johnson?

(in which case you should consider you are effectively saying you are as bad as a mass murderer or Johnson)

 

So expand please?

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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breaking rumors (while we wait for SD)

 

After being secretly awarded the 'order of victory' for heroic efforts enabling essential Londongrad money-laundering services funding Military and subversion programs, an unnamed traitor is allegedly playing for time while he applies for political asylum in Ukraine.

 

A alleged picture of the traitor receiving it from an oligarch during a secretive meeting is expected to be released once the traitor is securely in Ukraine ...

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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I now know why I hardly ever come in here now, sick of way am treated.

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Gone but never forgotten,Little Miss Sunshine, Alisha Marie. 15/12/2005 ~ ~ 13/02/2006

Our  beloved Dalmatian Jazz,  gone to join Wal at Rainbow Bridge, hope you are now pain free .  20/9/2005 ~ ~ 24/3/2019

 

 

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I'm sorry you feel like that, Sandy. :hug:

 

TJ, not everyone is interested in politics but Sandy's still entitled to comment, yes? We can't all answer your questions.

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HUH? Whats wrong with asking someone to clarify the reasoning behind their stance?

No-one has to explain, but surely it helps make/break a case, and it should be equally as acceptable to ask for clarification and present a different opinion without having to waffle when a 'stance' which flies in the face of sense and reason appears to have been presented. .

 

Simply again asking clarification on the reasoning behind a repeated statement and presenting the questionable logic in some examples which highlight the issues I see.

 

I might not add wholly niceties , direct is natural me,  but I think unsupported statements don't warrant or even deserve them anyway if I'm being blunt.

In fact I actually believe someone simply stating something like, for example  'Boris is the best most honest politician around and theres none better or different' in the current situation actually warrants little more than 'what utter crap'  as a response.

... So I was being 'nice'

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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5 hours ago, snowdragon said:

seems most people  who been asked have said they still want the Tories to be in power as no one trusts the other parties!  rotflmao

 

5 hours ago, snowdragon said:

all over internet HB, Mainly on craphoo ( yahoo! ) and f/b spotted pages

 

How does that look?

 

 

Now did I whine or avoid when you asked me what many might see as an awkward question?

NO - I answered it as completely as i could in a shortish response

 

Perhaps consider returning that courtesy instead of whining that I am being discourteous.

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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TJ, not everyone is good at standing up for themselves, maybe Sandy is one of them. I wasn't always assertive.

 

CAG is a community, please let's be nice to each other when the world outside is tough.

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Sandy isnt interested in politics - but repeatedly posts (presented as a simple statement presumably of fact) something she 'found' on some facebook and nondescript pages which flies entirely in the face of all polls ... 

 

Now I do NOT at all think sandy is a troll like Coniff was (IMCCO)- but why the heck?

I ask the same of a number of Uncs posts 9among others) (and still not sure if he means them or is just a wind up)

 

and thats why i asked and presented the perspectives. .. and always will whoever posts such things.

 

 

.. and just to qualify - Johnson has NOT at all actually resigned.

he has simply acknowledged that the timetable for the competition for a new leader should start to be defined

 

 

 

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Boris the liar and deciever has implied that he has accepted Bradeys assertion that the party needs a new leader

 

He hasn't actually resigned as leader to my knowledge (could be wrong in that)

He has NOT resigned as PM

 

He has said he will continue until a new leader is declared - nothing more limiting than that as far as I can see, and nothing regarding after.

that simply leads to an assumption that means he will go when a new leader is declared.

Not a ferkin chance - He has to be deposed by a 1922 no confidence vote - and then stopped from calling an election by the Tories who want to stay in power.

 

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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'The process of choosing that new leader should start now'

- seems to be the grand total

 

more than happy to be corrected if someone has the actual signed text of resignation of either positions leader of the party and PM (and there are actually delineations once a PM is in place - convention means nothing to Johnson)

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“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

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“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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HB I am quite capable of standing up for myself, I just feel at times no matter what I post here gets pulled to pieces!

I have donated to the site a couple of times but for what?

TJ has always been on my case it seems, I may just take some time away from the site, thanks for your help HB appreciated xx

R.I.P my beautiful grey ghost, gone but never forgotten, taken so suddenly, 04/07/2004 ~ ~ 02/03/2017

Gone but never forgotten,Little Miss Sunshine, Alisha Marie. 15/12/2005 ~ ~ 13/02/2006

Our  beloved Dalmatian Jazz,  gone to join Wal at Rainbow Bridge, hope you are now pain free .  20/9/2005 ~ ~ 24/3/2019

 

 

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55 minutes ago, snowdragon said:

I have donated to the site a couple of times but for what?

 

for our members wonderful advice given in the situations you have faced.

sadly it's not a protection racket :pound:

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