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perhaps they were business meetings that just happened to have party games, cake, booze and songs,

with work colleagues, family, doners,  and your decorator among others ...

 

.. all above board and nothing to be ashamed of or deny happened ... oops

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

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A Tory MP was “factually incorrect” to compare Boris Johnson’s attendance at a birthday bash in Downing Street to nurses having a drink at the end of their shift, the Royal College of Nursing (RCN) has said.

 

 

Lichfield MP Michael Fabricant had earlier told BBC News:

I don’t think at any time he thought he was breaking the law... he thought just like many teachers and nurses who after a very long shift would go back to the staff room and have a quiet drink.

Writing to him, Pat Cullen, general secretary of the RCN, said:

We remain at the forefront of pandemic response. Despite political narrative, as health and care professionals we know the Covid-19 context is nowhere near over. While you position yourself with some authority as to the behaviour and actions of nurses during the pandemic, I’d like to inform you of the following facts.

Throughout the pandemic - and still certainly, now - most days, nurses and nursing support workers, when finally finishing a number of unpaid hours well past shift end, will get home, clean their uniforms, shower and collapse into bed.

Throughout the early pandemic, this was often alone, for the protection of others - kept away from family, friends and support networks. These shifts - in communities, in hospitals, anywhere people are - are long, unrelenting, understaffed and intense.

 

At the end of one of the many hours, days and years we have worked, since recognition of the pandemic, I can assure you that none of us have sought to hang out and ‘have a quiet one in the staff room.’ There isn’t a site in England that would allow alcohol on the premises for any professional to consume during working hours.

 

As frontline professionals, still dealing with the implications of the pandemic - understaffed, underpaid, overworked, exhausted, burnt out and still holding it together while doing the best we can for our patients. It is utterly demoralising - and factually incorrect - to hear you suggest that our diligent, safety critical profession can reasonably be compared to any elected official breaking the law, at any time.

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Not only "they don't get it",  they don't care !

 

Arrogance of power, thinking they are the natural party of Government.

 

Opposition parties need to work harder to win over voters around the UK that they have the ideas to help improve quality of life for the majority.

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The Tories feel with that 80 seat majority they are untouchable, and they will have more things in place like the Online Harms Bill that could even affect what we are saying about them on this Forum,. Might be worth checking what it and OFCOM as a watchdog will do to the way advice Forums operate.  It might have no impact, but then again with bad drafting and catch alls in the sections it might. It will affect FB and Twitter, not sure  whether advice  on a Forum can be classed as Publishing in the way the Bill captures Social media.

 

Harmful but legal content may include anything OFCOM decides it is, so how to deal with Bailiffs might be classed so, as it affects the expedient collection of debt.

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and probably think loosing thousands of local council seats is a mixed blessing as they can then blame 'not populist' councilors for any issues

 

 

So when we getting the bring your own bottle with cakes, hats and games 'business meeting' results?

and the 'demonics been exorcised' 'business meeting' in the Johnson flat with loud music, drinks, games, party hats etc?

 

and will Johnson try to avoid being named? (1000-1 on that)

 

 

and yes, there is a war on

- A war on peoples lives, democracy, honesty, accountability and common decency, with Putin, Johnson and Trump seeming to be the 3 main enemies to be defeated.

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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I don't often write to my MP but I'm seriously considering it now. There's a possibility, although it may be faint, that if enough Tory MPs receive enough angry letters that they will put pressure on Johnson and Sunak to resign. At the very least, they should know how people feel.

 

My Tory MP is a staunch supporter of the government but as he's from the 2019 intake, I think it's worth a try.

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dream on HB - theres no general election due

Worth doing though.

 

 

On a side note of cost of living and profiteering that is happening under Johnson and Sunak

 

7% inflation to put the context of 2.1% pay increases

 

Fuel prices

Bulk fuel prices have come down about 15p a liter ... + 5p fuel duty reduction, plus 1p off vat = 21p reduction

Has anyone seen more than a 3 or 4p reduction in their fuel costs?

 

Food prices - up 15-20%

 

Exports - sitting in queues at dover rotting

UK Crops - rotting

 

while the middle eastern owned P&O who also broke UK law in sacking UK workers are allowed to not only continue, but be a major part of the UKs tax fiddle freeports

 

Corruption (physical, legal and moral) and usury - the epitome, the very definition of a Johnson UK.

 

 

 

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Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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As you say, I won't know unless I try. MPs said during one of the last crises that their inboxes were full of angry emails and it did seem to get through that time.

 

ETA: There's also the issue that there could be other fines. What do they do for the next one and the one after that?

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Sunak is desperate to stay on, he wants to be the Chancellor who ends Cash, and brings in the BritCoin CBDC a programmable Digital Currency, centrally controlled that allows them to decide what you can buy with it unlike other Crypto like Bitcoin and Etherium.

 

Either way he should go along with his greased piglet Johnson who seems still to slippery to catch.

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19 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

As you say, I won't know unless I try. MPs said during one of the last crises that their inboxes were full of angry emails and it did seem to get through that time.

 

ETA: There's also the issue that there could be other fines. What do they do for the next one and the one after that?

 

Same as this one, deny anything wrong until fined, try to drag out/smother the reporting, then spout something that could be claimed to be withing the definition of an apology no matter how dismissive and rejecting it may actually be,

and pull out those happy to BS to tell everyone nothing to see here, jog one plebs

 

'Tory/populist MP's dont want to rock the boat of their positions from anything as trivial as ministerial abuse of position, lying, corruption and VIProfiteering

 

The whole lot needs to be gone from politics and long past time the UK public woke up and smelled the rotten fish.

The head populist wont care, I'm sure many will be happy to take a back seat for a while to profit from their abuses while they have someone else to blame for the fallout

 

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Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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The Mirror is saying that Sunak was told not to resign as it would be seen as regicide. It seems he was pretty angry to have turned up for a meeting and end up trapped in the birthday party, as he saw it and then fined.

 

I suppose he can wait for the next FPN, I'm sure there'll be another one along soon.

 

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1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

The Mirror is saying that Sunak was told not to resign as it would be seen as regicide. It seems he was pretty angry to have turned up for a meeting and end up trapped in the birthday party, as he saw it and then fined.

 

That claim might be partly true, but all the water falls out the bottom of that bucket when he allegedly stays on just to protect the piece of crap who 'put him in that position', especially when he was repeatedly reported as lining himself up for replacement after 'regicide' on that very person. He was just a bit crap at it.

 

and Putting down a rabid dog that bites children seems a more fitting description to me than regicide.

 

 

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

 

I suppose he can wait for the next FPN, I'm sure there'll be another one along soon.

 

 

- but Sunaks lost the final few strands of any chance at any claim to personal honor IMO whether he is personally involved in any more FPNs or not. He should have just buggered off back to the USA. We all know hes going to anyway now.

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"  "devoid of decency"

Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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and speaking of mad dogs, yet another real fox paws from Starmer .. again.

The prat should just have kept shtum - or preferably stirred the stormy waters against the populists.

Where the hell was his deputy when this was decided? Probably left out again. Pillock

 

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Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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just to simplify the sunak not resigning for Johnson issue

 

1. Does anyone really think Johnson would resign if every single one of his ministers resigned? Some are already well in his pocket so there would be always be some remaining.

or would he just replace any who did and carry on regardless?

 

2. Does anyone think sunak stayed because of some (however twisted) sense honor or duty to the position or the government?

or because it was in his own interests (one or both of: his choice to complete some 'projects for his own or pals intterests, or forced via further leak threats or some such)?

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Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Thoughts on the PM's position from Katy Balls of the Spectator.

 

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A hostile reaction in constituencies coupled with bad results in the local elections is likely to spark recriminations, says Katy Balls, the Spectator’s...

 

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This one from @HorneBig on Twitter says it all.

"Will Johnson resign? is the big question, well what do you think?

I know what I think, it has something to do with porcine airborn projectiles .... !"

 

Dave Horne is a bit of a cartoonist.

 

 

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Very powerful update from Led by Donkeys.

 

 

 

 

 

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so why have Johnson and Sunak apparently only received 50 quid fines?

 

"A solicitor's daughter received a fixed penalty notice (FPN) in March while in halls of residence at the University of Nottingham.

 

Jane, who did not want to share her surname, told the BBC her daughter was visiting another flat for a "get together" with eight others.

She said all nine had previously tested positive for Covid-19 and were "playing cards and listening to smooth jazz".

Then the police entered the flat shouting "where is everyone?", according to Jane.

She said they were "aggressive and overbearing".

Those who did not live in the flat then returned to their own residences - but were still issued with £100 fines, rising to £200 if paid late.

 

 

 

So why is quietly playing cards and listening to some jazz with 8 people a greater offense than booze, games, breaking kids slides etc with 20-100 people??

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Boris Johnson (Mendex est)

called 'Prince of Lies' 'Unfit'  and 'The Divider'

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Speculation is that Boris could have been investigated about 6 parties he allegedly attended.

 

And if Boris is subject to several more fines, surely Tory MP's will decide that he has to be replaced ?

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That's what I was saying UB. And they haven't talked about the party in the no11 flat yet.

 

Surely they aren't going to say he's already apologised for this and that we should move on? You can start to see what Peston meant about it being a political crisis.

 

I see there's a vote on Wednesday on whether a parliamentary committee should investigate if he's lied to the House. I don't see there being enough rebels at the moment plus they don't seem to have a plan for replacing the PM.

 

 

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