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    • I've also seen it mentioned that the two parts of Ireland becoming closer is concerning HMG.   And that NI still coming under EU rules for trade could be showing that it's better to be in the EU than in Brexit Britain. If people start to think it shows Brexit isn't working, that's going to be a problem for Johnson et al.
    • You won't be able to bring a counterclaim unless you can produce a properly structured assessment of losses or costs or ancillary expenses and you will need to do this by producing at least written assessment et cetera as I have indicated above. Two of them would be much better. A court won't entertain a counterclaim simply based on your own speculation as to your possible costs. I understand very well that your preference would be to write off the entire job including all of the materials that were supplied and for you to recover your outlay for those materials but I think in order to do that you would have to show that you have acquired no value from those materials and once again I think that you would need an expert assessment which explained why the materials were completely wasted and that you would have to start from zero. You can be certain that the claimant will attempt to say that you have received value and in fact that the items which have been supplied or already installed can still be used. I'm afraid that because the attempt to arrange this contract as a cash only agreement inevitably invites the scepticism of the court, I think the court may well be open to consider arguments that the items which have already been supplied are of use to you. If you can get expert confirmation that the supplied materials are now of no use whatsoever, then you will also have to get a quote for uninstalling them and returning them to the claimant. This means that the whole thing is getting even more complicated. I do think that your best interests would be to discuss the matter with your new installer and to see what items which have been already supplied can be used to finish the project – and then to try and deal with the claimant in respect of those on the basis that the case would be withdrawn and everybody would walk away. I think it's time to start abandoning some of this rancour between you because it isn't helping and it won't impress anybody. Don't underestimate the disapproval that will be felt by the court when they get to know about the cash arrangement and this won't be helped by the fact that you then went ahead to try and get receipts. I understand very well that you say that you simply provided money and that in fact you were the purchaser of the items directly from the retailer – but there is no evidence for that and it would be an unusual arrangement and I think the court might express scepticism about that as well. I think we have to bear in mind your credibility in this – and I think that it is rather fragile at the moment. If you came up with a sensible business- like idea about how to put this one to bed and then put it to the claimant and also mention the fact that as he was involved in a cash only transaction, he also might find that he is incurring the displeasure of the court – particularly as he is the claimant, he might feel inclined to try and wrap it all up and bring it to an end. I think the next thing you must do is to get an expert report as I've already suggested above. You will need to do this anyway. If you don't have an expert report then even if you happen to win your argument that there is a breach of contract, the assessment of how much you win will be impossible for the court to decide. The court will absolutely want expert assessments. So you need an assessment as to the work which has been carried out so far and the work needed and costs involved to carry out the job. You need an assessment as to the usability or otherwise of the equipment which has been supplied. At least that for the moment. I don't think it is possible to do much more until you have this information. If you can get the information then we can decide what to do. Obviously I don't know anything about the subject, but I can't imagine that all of the equipment which has been supplied is useless. It could only be useless if you suddenly say that you want an entirely different system of gates – but on that matter, you are bound by your expectation in the contract and you would only be entitled to install a similar system using similar equipment.  
    • I wonder whether part of the UK issue with current NI protocol, is that it is enabling a better trading environment between Ireland and Northern Ireland.     Northern Irish businesses have anticipated import/export issues with Great Britain, so now trade with Ireland or via Ireland.   Apparently reports are that some Northern Irish businesses have seen an increase in trade. It is only businesses that mostly sell British fresh produce that have been affected by border controls  and even then, they could swap to local produce.   Agree that UK Government are using argument with EU as a convenient distraction, but also there must be a worry about increased risk of a united Ireland, as a indirect consequence of Brexit.
    • Fintan O'Toole has an article about the Brexit negotiations and what he thinks HMG's aims are.   Facing chaos and needing a scapegoat, the Tories seek an endless fight with Europe | Fintan O’Toole | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM The EU’s proposals on the Northern Ireland protocol offered what business leaders wanted, but the prime minister prefers failure and grievance  
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The Good Law Project were in court on Friday and have published emails showing that Cummings demanded civil servants set up a contract for polling costing £580m to Hanbury, who were involved with Vote Leave.

 

The emails reveal that it was political polling on opposition figures like Keir Starmer and Sadiq Khan. The Conservative party should have paid for this, not the taxpayer.

 

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Very smelly !  i am surprised that the Police have not been called in to investigate some of the allegatiions that have been made over recent months. 

 

The amount involved for the polling appears to be £580 k and not £580 m

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The amount involved for the polling appears to be £580 k and not £580 m

 

I'm sure it must have been an innocent typo which I'm sure will be corrected.

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Expect the £579 million difference has gone to other friends, family and donors of the Conservative party or those who backed the leave campaign. 

 

Or may be not and all rules were followed to the letter of the law.  Nothing to see here, please move on. 

 

In normal times, these allegations would be on front pages of all newspapers, addressing the sleaze scandal in Government.

 

But there has been very little coverage due to Covid and Brexit related issues.

 

 

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I'm putting this on the Johnson thread because the exclusive club that Ben Elliot runs for his top tier clients also connects with the Tory 'Advisory Board' for top donors which allows access to the PM and Chancellor.

 

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ETA: I'm not sure who published this first but I think it featured in The Times and FT first.

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Gavin Esler has written an article on how British government is supposed to work on the 'good chaps' principle but isn't any more.

 

He talks about Peter Hennessy and Andrew Blick's paper on this and how they foresaw a lot of what's happening now. Depressing stuff.

 

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Why do those in positions of power now evade accountability despite numerous examples of incompetence, dangerous liaisons, lies, and even...

 

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Thats absolutely spot on HB

 

Even the yanks have learned that having a president, that only has 'limited' 'limits on his powers compared to others is dangerous.

 

There is little doubt that the USA's General Milley and a few others prevented Trump starting a war just to attempt to be able to declare a state of emergency and hang on to power

 

Johnson may be a lesser breed of psychopath/sociopath than Trump - but not by much IMCCO.

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“veil of ignorance” "unrepentant and inveterate liar" 

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Companies in the food chain are sounding increasingly desperate. I haven't seen anything about the government looking into this, they seem to be more interested in culture wars still.

 

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PM's attempt to 'bluff' his way through pandemic led to last-minute U-turns, report finds

 

"Boris Johnson’s attempt to “bluff” his way through the Covid pandemic left the government without any contingency plans for school closures or the scrapping of exams, according to a damning new report."

 

"The Institute for Government (IfG) think tank said the “single biggest issue” for education had been the failure in the summer of 2020 to learn from previous errors and to prepare for further waves of the virus.

Its report claimed the prime minister deliberately ordered officials not to draft fall-back plans, a blunder that later led to GCSEs and A-levels being cancelled just months before they were due to take pace."

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“veil of ignorance” "unrepentant and inveterate liar" 

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It IS what he does

 

* Come up with some idea

* Dont plan, dont cost, dont even sanity check

* refuse to hear its a bad idea or any other options

* blocks, blunders and dithers and delays everyone until its too late to do anything about it

** Then just leaves the pile of cack at others feet to do unplanned disaster recovery and walks away claiming a great success

 

Everything - from Brexit to bridges to peoples lives and education

again and again and again and again

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"vacuous and economically illiterate" "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

“veil of ignorance” "unrepentant and inveterate liar" 

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The Good Law Project have been in court again about covid contracts worth gazillions that were awarded under the emergency procedures. The government has redacted large amounts of information which the judge didn't seem happy about.

 

And it's saying that some of Lord Bethell's correspondence may not be available because his phone 'broke' and they may not be able to retrieve it. Techies are saying that it shouldn't be that hard. It's very disturbing that public money is being spent with inadequate records being kept. I'm sure those of us who work[ed] would be sacked for doing that.

 

https://goodlawproject.org/update/lord-bethell-new-phone/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social media&utm_campaign=abingdon private emails 0308

 

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I find this all very concerning that contracts have been agreed without going through a process that ensures integrity is maintained. 

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Me too. Also worrying is that directors of companies have done very nicely out of this financially but supplied PPE that wasn't fit to use. In the real world the client who paid the money would want some or all of it back.

 

I saw a story the other day about one of these directors who wanted to buy an expensive house and showed a multi-million deposit into his account from HMG which got him the loan.

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If you have five minutes, this is Jolyon Maugham on LBC talking to James O'Brien about Lord Bethell allegedly not having records of messages he sent and received on covid contracts. Lord Bethell may have slipped up here, according to Jolyon.

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/lord-bethell-breaking-phone-could-be-criminal-offense/

 

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The European ETIAS visa-waiver scheme that some papers are getting aerated about was supported by recent David Cameron's government.

 

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Exclusive: David Cameron’s government said to have been one of ‘biggest supporters’ of idea in 2016

 

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"vacuous and economically illiterate" "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

“veil of ignorance” "unrepentant and inveterate liar" 

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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If you have five minutes, this is Jolyon Maugham on LBC talking to James O'Brien about Lord Bethell allegedly not having records of messages he sent and received on covid contracts. Lord Bethell may have slipped up here, according to Jolyon.

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/lord-bethell-breaking-phone-could-be-criminal-offense/

 

 

I think the UK taxpayer should clearly tell Johnson and his cronies that deals done outside the UK's stated mechanisms, are personal deals with the individual liable for them, not the nation - and refer any companies to their pals for payment for those personal deals.

 

Send in the bailifs to get nut nuts gold leaf wallpaper - should be easy as it keeps falling off by itself doesn't it?

 

Now that episode I would watch

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On a lighter note (being as it sure wont happen now)

 

"Johnson offered Dominic Cummings a seat in the House of Lords, the former No 10 chief of staff has claimed.

 

Cummings also said the prime minister wanted to give his wife Carrie a government job with “lots of foreign travel”, according to an interview in The Spectator.

 

If Mr Cummings had taken a peerage he would have been able to vote on laws and could even have been appointed as a minister."

 

- Independent reporting on Spectator

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I thought - Johnson wants her out the way already ..

 

... and hoped we'd pay

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Cummings also said the prime minister wanted to give his wife Carrie a government job with “lots of foreign travel”, according to an interview in The Spectator.

 

 

 

Must be thinking to get rid of sharma and give her this job

Executive luxury Flights all over the world, no quarantine even from red list countries, visit schools after returning from red list countries, luxury all expenses tax payer paid hotels ..

- all in the name of a good cause

-  no not climate control, dont be silly - letting Johnson out from under nut nuts  thumb and get back to sowing his oats

 

 

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Boris must be relieved that his competitor is similarly financially incompetent and untrustworthy as him, but without his taxpayer captive audience to foot the bills

 

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Metro Bank’s decision ‘based on politics,’ claims party leader Richard Tice

 

 

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I could have nightmares about this. During a tantrum recently, the PM threatened to make Rishi health minister [I'm not clear what would happen to Javid] and make Liz Truss chancellor of the exchequer! With Rees Mogg as deputy?

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