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    • @FTMDave  -  Simeon's had a go at incorporating the attachments at #100 (I think?) but I think what he's done needs tidying up.  But as you say that's just an admin/clerical task and all simeon needs to do is to ensure that it all hangs together and makes sense.  Doesn't require specialist knowledge.   I agree with your comment regarding my paras 13 and 14.  You've made it clearer than I did!   I've also advised simeon to incorporate the report he got from the surveyor.  (Was it Hale Survey Limited?)  Let's see how he got on.   Oh - I also introbuced an error in my draft.  I had simeon down as paying the piling company £3300 but it was only £3000 (I think).  Simeon needs to check that the correct figure is in.  (Simeon had corrected my error* in #100.  I think you may have missed that because you've got a day job to do!)   Oh - and of course simeon needs to ensure that he has taken account of the corrections you have made to the claimant/defendant terminology.   Apart from the above and the interest, I'm not sure if anything else is required.  It's up to simeon now...    *I think the only thing simeon changed in #100 from my earlier draft was the piling bill from £3300 to £3000, and he attempted to add the attachments.  It might have been better - and less confusing for you! - if he'd left that until you'd completed your amendments.  Ah well...
    • We don't need the claim form, they are standard so we know what they look like.   We needs (a) the fleecers' particulars of claim verbatim with the amounts they are claiming, and (b) the date of the claim so we know the deadline for getting your defence in.
    • I see simeon  has several quotes for remedial work and also a report on some of the damage.  They need to be given exhibit/attachment numbers and linked to (16) and (17).  That is simple clerical work, you don't need any legal knowledge to do so.   Obviously the piling receipt has to be linked to (10).   As MiE has pointed out, the total needs to go in (18) and personally I would include the four sub-totals in (18 a b c d).  After all, the court did ask for a properly itemised counterclaim.   If simeon can do the above tomorrow we can then add Andyorch's point about interest at the end.
    • Hi, I’m really scared and nervous to write here, as I’ve never done anything like this before.    I had a telephone DWP compliance interview the other week, when I had the letter I thought I’d been called up at random as I couldn’t think what I’d done wrong.  In 2016 I started an open uni course part time as I was working, however a few months later I suddenly became unwell and was off work a year before finally becoming dismissed. I had to claim ESA while I was still employed as I hadn’t paid enough tax. My mum helped me make the ESA claim over the phone and one of the questions was ‘are you in full time education’ which I replied no to, but we said I had as at the OU part time.  I had to attends job centre visits and told them again about my open uni course, and every year I phoned up for a letter to confirm my ESA for my student fee loan and a part time grant.  The compliance officer is investigating me because I hadn’t declared my studying even though he had it down that I said I was with them. So I’ve had to send in all my information on my student grant which is £1155 a year.  I’m terrified of what is going to happen because I’m sure they had everything down about it all. I’m still claiming ESA for my illness and I’m in the support group, and I’m upset because I’m sure everything was down.  I just wondered if anyone knows what’s going to happen to me.    Best wishes 
    • OK, I've sorted out using the correct terminology to refer to the parties.   The original document was absurdly long and filled with waffle. I reduced it. Then MiE did so further – twice. I've continued on the theme and have merged (13) & (14) as I don't think we need to go into detail of why a £2000 payment because £1500, it'd just confuse the judge.  Feel free to disagree!   I've sorted out the new numbering and references to paragraph numbers.   IMO (16) needs beefing up to explain why the builder disappeared, but simeon seems to not want to explain this properly, so so be it.   Apart from that it looks about ready to go.   Counterclaim   1.      The original Claimant agreed to undertake building work (Project 1) at the original Defendant/now Part 20 Counterclaimant’s property in relation to 3 specific areas of work for an agreed price of £4300.  The work was:   a. To underpin the bay window at the property, b. To replace and repair a previously-removed chimney breast and, c. To install a new beam to the patio door.   2.      It was agreed that Project 1 was to be carried out under the instructions of a structural engineer engaged by the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant and that the Claimant’s work would be as a result of instructions received following the structural engineer's assessment of the property.   3.      Between June and July in 2020 the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant provided the Claimant with a full copy of the structural engineer's report which detailed instructions to the Claimant for the works to be carried out.   4.      It was agreed between the parties that the works would commence on 13 August 2020.   5.      It was agreed between the parties that payments for Project 1 would be made in three instalments. The first payment would be made at the start of the Claimant's work. The second payment would be paid at the halfway point of the Claimant's work. The final payment would be made on completion of the total works.   6.      The Claimant commenced work on 13 August 2020 and the first instalment due was paid.     7.      On 24 August 2020 the Claimant asked the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant to arrange an inspection of his work by the Building Control Inspector.  The Claimant also stated that Project 1 was approaching mid-way and the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant paid the second instalment due.   8.      The Building Inspector arrived to inspect the Claimant’s work but the Claimant was absent.  The inspector was obviously very displeased by the standard of the Claimant's work.  The inspector spoke to the Claimant by telephone, asking him why he was absent and interrogating him about the work he had done.  The inspector then gave him some instructions over the telephone and also left a list of instructions with the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant to be passed on to the builder.  The building inspector then said he would be getting in touch with the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant’s structural engineer with his findings and the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant should hear from the engineer soon.   9.      The Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant passed on the Building Inspector’s instructions to the Claimant who agreed to follow them.   10.  The structural engineer visited and recommended piling to complete the underpinning for Project 1.  The Claimant explained that he could not undertake this work. The structural engineer then suggested an alternative company to the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant to do the necessary work and this company was engaged by the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant to complete the necessary piling at an additional cost to the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant of £3300. (See receipt at Attachment1).   11.  The Claimant asked if the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant needed any more work to be done and, despite the problems encountered on Project 1, the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant agreed on 7 September 2020 to have more work done (Project 2) at an agreed price of £2580 and on similar payment terms to Project 1.   12.  As work commenced on Project 2 and was continued on the remaining work for Project 1, the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant had occasion to make several complaints to the Claimant regarding the standard of his work.   13.   Barely a week after starting on Project 2, the Claimant demanded payment for that work.  After a period of negotiation the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant paid the Claimant  £1500 in cash.  Both parties agreed that this left a balance outstanding on Project 2 of £1080.   14.  It later came to the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant’s attention that the Claimant had removed material (including a steel beam) from the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant’s property that the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant suspects either belonged to him or had been paid for by him in connection with Project 1.  When challenged the Claimant admitted he had done this.  The Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant has included the value of this material in his counterclaim detailed below.   15.    On 21 September 2020 the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant highlighted and sent a snagging list to the Claimant (Attachment 2).  Over a month later the Claimant sent an employee to attend to this work.  It was not carried out satisfactorily and resulted in an updated snagging list being sent to the claimant (Attachment 3).  All of this snagging work remains undone by the Claimant.   16.  Apart from the outstanding snagging work referred to in para 16 above, the Claimant also left other work from Projects 1 and 2 uncompleted.  That work which was not completed is listed at Attachment 4.   17.  During the course of carrying out work on Projects 1 and 2 the Claimant also negligently caused substantial damage to the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant’s property (as itemised in Attachment 5) by not executing the work with the skill expected of a reasonable tradesman.   18.  The Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant seeks an order from the court directing the Claimant to pay to the Defendant/Part 20 Counterclaimant the sum of £nnnnnnn {Simeon - put in the actual total amount here) in respect of:   (a)   the cost of the piling referred to in para 10 above which the Claimant could not undertake and another contractor had to be paid to complete; (b)   the cost of completing work the Claimant had left undone from Projects 1 and 2 referred to in para 16 above; (c)   the cost of remedial work to put right the damage negligently caused by the Claimant and referred to in para 17 above; and (d)    the cost of the steel beam referred to in para 14 above.   A receipt in respect of item (a) - see Attachment 1 - and two priced quotes in respect of items (b) and (c) - see Attachments 6 and 7 - are attached in support of this counterclaim.
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and regarding Politicians having second third and fourth jobs at immense hourly rates - jobs? lobbying/Promotion rackets?

- lets call them what they really are (IMO) protection rackets

It seems that in a number of cases, the MP contacts the companies offering their services ...

How do we think that goes?

 'hello I'm an MP I can advise you as long as it doesn't compromise my position and responsibilities s an MP"

or

"hello, me and my mates are on the commitees that regulate you industry, want to give me loads of money for a couple of hours a month ....

 

Sounds like a protection racket in all but name to me

 

 

 

So, Despite some (a few) MPs doing valuable charitable work in addition to their duties as an MP ..

Lets keep it simple:

If an MP isnt giving 100%, undiluted, to the constituents that voted them in and for which duties they are being handsomely paid

- they should voluntarily and immediately pi** off or be sacked.

 

 

 

 

 

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 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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So how is Johnson going to get out of the No 10 party debacle now? Surely he can't keep denying it now the Allegra Stratton video that was leaked to ITV News is all over Twitter.

 

Someone has said that the 2019 intake who were already annoyed about trying to dig Owen Paterson out of his mess, on government orders, are much more angry this time about being sent out to lie.

 

A lot of other people are very angry that they abided by the rules las Christmas, didn't see family and weren't able to be with their loved ones in their last moments. Most people think the government are just laughing at us, everyone else followed the rules and we didn't.

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It wasn't a party, it was a well done meeting where people brought Cheese and wine and games were held and no one was there who wasn't there.

That not a party.

 

A party is where beer is drunk and crisps are ate, by plebs, and the plebs talk about it openly. apart from people who shouldn't have been there ... err

 

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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 I suppose it was worth a try, but I don't think many people are convinced. I don't think he even got his story straight about there being a party, but in any case it's someone else's fault and some staff could end up carrying the can. Referring it to the Cabinet Office could buy a bit of time but I don't see the public forgetting about this.

 

He's also refusing to investigate alleged parties in November in no 10, including one that Dominic Cummings has said was in the PM's flat, the Cab Office is only looking at 18th December.

 

Meanwhile, Pippa Crerar at the Mirror has asked anyone who was there to contact her in full anonymity.

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“The rule of law is a fundamental value, the glue that hold us together as a nation. Once that is trashed by those in power the very essence of our democracy is at stake.”

"Every minister, parliamentarian and staffer at the Downing Street party must resign NOW. No ifs no buts”

 

- Conservative Baroness Warsi

 

 

While populist Rees-Mogg jokes about it while calling for 'Singapore-on-Thames and a trashing regulations

 

WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK

The cabinet minister joked about potential police investigations to crowd at think thank

 

 

While Johnson and Crew panic

 

WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK

Government ministers backed out of a round of morning interviews today hours after a clip appeared to capture No10 special advisers joking about...

 

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 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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On 03/11/2021 at 18:09, tobyjugg2 said:

 

Just when you think they have plumbed the depths of cronysim and self serving, they show you that there is a whole new floor below that

 

 

Again and again and again

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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yep

 

Allegra Stratton resigns

Allegra Stratton, the prime minister’s former spokesperson, has resigned. Giving a patently sincere apology outside her home, in contrast to Boris Johnson’s non-apology in the Commons earlier, she did the honourable thing after the leak of the video from a year ago showing No 10 staff joking about holding a Christmas party. 

 

Her resignation does further confirm that it – “the event or non-event”, as Johnson called it – happened.  This won’t be the end of the story. I wrote about Johnson’s poor performance at Prime Minister’s Questions (see below), saying that he will continue to be asked about that and other parties until he comes up with a credible account of what happened. 

 

The public outrage is not going to force him from office, but “one rule for us and another rule for them” is a theme now firmly established in the public mind, as Andrew Grice wrote even before PMQs.

 

- Independent breaking news

 

 

and Johnson the cred-less announcing more restrictions - unless you are one of his mates that is

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 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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A comprehensive summary so far

 

 

 

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"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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More:

 

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How The Mirror and ITV News uncovered the political story of the year.

 

 

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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The Conservative party has been fined £17,800 over a donation to the Downing Street refurb.

 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/conservative-party-hit-with-17-800-fine-over-pm-flat-refurb/

 

And it's being said that he may have lied to Lord Geidt the ethics tsar about when he knew where the money was coming from.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-accused-lying-probe-25655522

 

No wonder he wants to make the Electoral Commission less powerful. Also, this could be a further incentive for MPs and ministers to use 'exploding' WhatsApps, so there's no record of what's been said.

 

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yes, Geidt apparently based his 'unwise but no fault' on Johnson the liars word that he didnt do anything wrong, and din't know where the funding was coming from - he (well nut nut) was just spending it

 

Seems Johnsons choice - Geidt must have neglected to actually properly question anyone else and just took Johnson the liars word!!

.. incompetence or deliberated decision? .... who knows?

 

99% of the UK's prisoner population are now screaming - I told the judge I didn't do it - why am I in Jail?

 

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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I see that Johnson now needs the support of Labour to implement his overdue AND likely full of holes and inconsistencies 'Plan b due to rebellion by Con refusniks

 

If i were labour I wouldn't despite extra measure being needed.

I would whip abstensions due to

* not being involved i the decision making

* Not trusting the implementation would not make matters worse while allowing ministers and pals to do whatever they want

 

and that the burden of responsibility for governing should be on the governing party who have demonstrated they are more than happy force through protections for their corrupt pals

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 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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I agree, TJ. Johnson will throw out accusations of holding up vital legislation if Labour back it, but as you say there are flaws and I also think Labour should have a say.  Johnson would be rude about that too, but it could look better for Labour.

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Johnson will claim any credit and blame anyone else for failures anyway .. whether justified or not

 

 

Back to No10 parties, where are we so far? Parties/farewell/leaving do's etc by Johnson his ministers and spads in N10 + No11

.. while the rest of us were locked down and couldn't even visit our grans or chat to them from 2 meters away over a gate

 

Just so far:

13th Nov Cummings leaving 'Victory Party'

27th Nov

8th Dec

10th Dec

18th Dec

 

No doubt more to come

 

ah just searched

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

As reports come in of more events that took place last Christmas, this is what is claimed to have happened, and where

 

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 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Good Law Project says if the Met Police won't investigate Partygate, they will take it to court.

 

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In the very building where the rules were being made, they were being broken. No 10 advisors were reportedly having parties. Those closest to Boris...

 

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Boris Johnson maintains 'full confidence' in the people who were practicing lying and covering up for him and who also consider; like him; that they make the rules for others, not for themselves

.. well until its convenient to throw them under a bus to deflect blame from himself that is ...

 

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PM has ‘full confidence’ in Jack Doyle, who will remain in his post, says spokesman

 

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Those stances by Johnson supporting those who break laws define more than anything his utter contempt for the UK public

 

Jenrick over ruling local councils to save millionaire pals millions - and wandering from estate to estate while the rest of us were locked down - supported by Johnson the corrupt liar

 

Cummings breaking lockdown rules and claims he was testing eyesight - Supported by Johnson the corrupt liar

 

Multiple parties and MPs without masks - while the rest of us were 'under orders' to stay isolated

 

Paterson using his position to promote his real employers - not only supported, but support whipped by Johnson the corrupt liar

 

Peerages and honors to Pals and Family ...

 

The list really does seem endless

 

Johnson has been a corrupt lying incompetent from day 1 and he'll die one.

Its a disgrace to our nation that he is an MP let alone PM.

Why Londoners voted for a lying buffoon to represent them I'll never know.

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Interesting that Starmer is telling the Tories/Populists that they need to get rid of Johnson for the good of the Nation and the Tory party, despite any change from Johnson probably not being in Labours best interests ...

 

... So how did that go when Cameron suggested that to Labour/Corbynistas of Corbyn?

 

?

 

 

 

 "Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Some may think Annette Dittert's article in the New Statesman is alarmist: I don't. She has experience of the UK and Poland and I think she's very perceptive.

 

Legislation that's being proposed by Patel and Raab is also worrying.

 

WWW.NEWSTATESMAN.COM

This government is hammering away at the foundations of a free society. Look to Warsaw to see where that can lead.

 

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I think the following comment says it all

 

Today, a former Danish minister was sentenced to 60 days in jail for breaking the ministerial code. As one commentator said, we’d rather not become the UK so we are relieved to see that the judiciary works.
 
 
Johnson wouldn't have to worry about where his next 10 thousand meals are coming from
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"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “tinpot dictator” “mired in sleaze”

Boris Johnson Mendex est

“as he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches, he didn’t realise it was a party”

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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