Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

Agree with Sandy, that many people are fed up with all in powerful positions, who appear to be letting the country down at the moment.

 

 

So tell us, other than that seemingly false claim above, how Starmer is having parties, routing billions in taxpayer money to VIPal middlemen, trashing our international standing, reneging on international agreements, unlawfully proroguing parliament, lying in parliament

 

Theres only one clown - and its Johnson pennywise, everyone else is just a side act

[tobyjugg2]

I'm still waiting for the petty cash/expenses for the week or so around the various parties to be examined (by te expected whitewash - yeah right)  - for a number of few hundred quick booze bills charging the taxpayer for their antics

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[tobyjugg2]

I hear that the public had misheard, and were voraciously supporting ..

 

The operation for a badly behaved dog

[unclebulgaria67]

@tobyjugg2

 

How many inquiries were there during and after the last Labour Government ?

 

Seem to remember quite a few.

 

And Corbyn's Labour Party had a few issues, which made then unelectable.  I blame Corbyn for causing Johnson to win an 80 seat majority.

 

Keir Starmer has work to complete, to achieve a frontbench team with all of the best people Labour has available. Labour needs to offer am alternative that inspires people to vote for them. And they need to provide this ASAP.

 

And Tories need to remove the clown who would still not be funny in a circus.

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

@tobyjugg2

 

How many inquiries were there during and after the last Labour Government ?

 

Seem to remember quite a few.

 

Spit them out them, and how they relate to Johnsons antics  - empty rhetoric is Johnsons technique

 

IN FACT dont bother - lets have something re the Current labour MPs and shadow cabinet

.. and how they relate to the CURRENT Johnson cabinet and party

 

1 hour ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 

And Corbyn's Labour Party had a few issues, which made then unelectable.  I blame Corbyn for causing Johnson to win an 80 seat majority.

 

As do I

 

 

1 hour ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 

Keir Starmer has work to complete, to achieve a frontbench team with all of the best people Labour has available. Labour needs to offer am alternative that inspires people to vote for them. And they need to provide this ASAP.

 

perhaps, but do you not agree that its already better than Johnson and his selection - like ress mogg, Nadine Dorries, Handcock renewed or otherwise etc?

 

1 hour ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 

And Tories need to remove the clown who would still not be funny in a circus.

 

Clowns, starting with Pennywise Johnson

 

Edited January 16, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Nothing yet unc?

 

Let me give you a starter

 

Everything Johnson does is to maintain his position and pay his pals while partying the premiership away - by throwing anyone else under the bus.

 

 

Even the new vaccine center funded by a couple hundred million taxpayers money, touted as a future savior of the UK, is being arranged to be sold to the private sector pals at a loss

and while the UK under Johnson still cant make its own covid tests, and millions more of taxpayer money is routed to VIPal middlemen, and give more taxpayer money for crappy dyson air filters or the kids can just get cold or 'herd immunity aka infected.

 

So Labours plans?

NOT sell of that vaccine production center,

invest in UK production of tests (like Scotland has with PPE)

and invest in better ventilation in schools

 

Starmers labour as bad as Johnson? Bo****s

No contest in Starmers Labours favour it seems to me - ... Still waiting for your justifications to think otherwise.

 

 

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Edited January 16, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

I can imagine it's not a great week to be working in no10. One paper says the mood is terrible and most people are looking for a way out. They also question who would want to work for Johnson now, although I'd have thought being scapegoat should have been priced in already.

 

If it happens, will it lead to even more leaks from disgruntled ex-staff? I've lost count of how many parties we're up to now, is it 15? Anyway, the Mirror have news of another one today.

 

And the populist announcements have started, freeze the TV licence fee and bash the Beeb, plus another go at sending migrants to be processed and/or settled in Rwanda or Ghana. I'm not sure if either of them has agreed to receive people in return for money from the UK government.

 

 

 

 

[brassnecked]

Its another soundbite HB to appease the masses concerned at the rubber boat arrivals.

[honeybee13]

Sure. Even some Tories can see it's an attempt at distraction though.

[tobyjugg2]

The 5g covid chop the poles down party

(... No Not Farages anti-Pole stance .. errr .. then again)

 

 

Starmer says he's 'not remotely threatened' by new Corbyn party

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"The vast majority of Labour supporters want to see a Labour government, that's the whole point in the Labour Party," he said.

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Inveterate Liar says he will swear on oath that other inveterate liar lied

 

Cummings says PM was told No 10 party ‘broke the rules’ but said it should go ahead

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Email sent by ‘very senior official’ will show prime minister ‘lied to parliament’ ex-chief aide claims

 

[tobyjugg2]

"Only dictators make protesting illegal. Think about that."

Lloyd Hardy

 

Government defeated 14 times over draconian police bill

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"This wouldn't have happened if people hadn't taken to the streets and raised the alarm at the Tories' growing authoritarianism."

 

[hightail]

On 17/01/2022 at 09:01, brassnecked said:

Its another soundbite HB to appease the masses concerned at the rubber boat arrivals.

And a futile attempt to distract us from 'work meetings'.

[tobyjugg2]

 

 

 

 

 

Caroline Lucas@CarolineLucas

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Deeply depressing - our attempt to remove the provisions for mandatory Voter ID have been defeated - so Government succeeds in making it harder for already disenfranchised communities to vote

- a “solution” for a problem (voter fraud) that doesn’t exist #ElectionsBill

 

 

Apparently 1 in 10 UK (ex)voters do NOT have the newly required voter ID

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[tobyjugg2]

"Although the council has announced cross-party committee to investigate the issue, the fact that all senior councillors have stonewalled questions on the subject has only added to local fury. Residents here feel like their concerns are being ignored by the very people who should be representing them.

 

And, with local elections barely three months away, there is some suggestion Labour and the Greens may end up paying at the ballot box – creating the bizarre possibility that both parties could lose South Yorkshire council seats over a scandal that started with a Tory prime minister."

 

Fury as partying council boss Kate Josephs clings on to £190k job

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Kate Josephs – boss of Sheffield City Council – hosted Whitehall drinks while residents said goodbye to loved ones on iPads. Now crisis...

 

Get rid of her - no dithering

[tobyjugg2]

 

[honeybee13]

That Led By Donkeys video is great, isn't it? I don't see any of them being on the resignation honours list, lol.

[tobyjugg2]

The Lords does good work, but I think anyone who doesn't attend more than 50 times a year AND visibly contribute in a meaningful way should lose it.

[tobyjugg2]

Still awaiting @unclebulgaria67support for his claim that 'Labour is as bad as Johnsons .. guv

 

.. or a retraction will do?

Doing a Johnson wont do.

[unclebulgaria67]

@tobyjugg2

 

What have you possibly got against poor old Boris ?  Apart from the difficulty in being factual, PPE VIP fast track lane, some poor decisions on Covid that have caused UK to have Europes highest death toll.

 

All governments have problems.  Labour,   Iraq, Mandleson issues,  Keith Vaz issues, Blair/Brown fued.

 

I am a fan of Tory Blair by the way and thought he was one of our best PM's.  But there were a few mistakes.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

I find you minimising Johnsons 'issues' and 'failings' so dramatically, nothing short of unconscionable and offensive.

His actions and practices have set the bar so low, things that would have brought shame to almost any prior politician are now everyday events to be covered by excuses and lies ... normalised, with ministers singing the praises of rank abuses

 

I have ALWAYS found the voting decision making process a matter of choosing the 'lessor evil', and sometimes quite hard (eg Johnson V Corbyn)

 

.. so your and SD's considering or at least stating 'they are all as bad as one another' specifically in relation to Johnson and his senior cronies past and present ... aside from selling short 90% of all UK politicians (no matter how self-serving they may have been considered in the past)

Is Beelzebub 'just as bad/no worse' than a mischievous imp?

 

.. how the heck do you reconcile any voting choice .. or dont you vote?

 

 

Edited January 19, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

 

 

and he missed loads .. theres so much you just get lost in Johnsons abuses

 

Edited January 19, 2022 by tobyjugg2

[unclebulgaria67]

@tobyjugg2

 

I vote Lib Dem or independent mostly

 

Lib Dems for parish, council and national.  But if there is no Lib Dem candidate, I will support an independent candidate if standing.

 

I did actually vote Labour for the Police commissioner vote.

 

Never voted Tory, as since I have been able to vote, I have never liked their flavour of politics.  A bit too bitter and divisive for my liking.

[unclebulgaria67]

 

[tobyjugg2]

12 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

@tobyjugg2

 

I vote Lib Dem or independent mostly

 

Lib Dems for parish, council and national.  But if there is no Lib Dem candidate, I will support an independent candidate if standing.

 

I did actually vote Labour for the Police commissioner vote.

 

Never voted Tory, as since I have been able to vote, I have never liked their flavour of politics.  A bit too bitter and divisive for my liking.

 

 

So you don't actually think they are 'all as bad as one another despite declaring it and avoiding retracting it

.. in the 'flavour' of Johnson

So why sping the soundbite commonly used by the supporters of the worst when the worsts abusing is highlighted, in an attempt to 'normalise' and excuse the abuses and antics of the worst?

 

So you see Johnson as 'a flavour of politics' rather than a lying corrupt ****** unfit for office who is corrupting the very basis of British politics .. even with all the cronyism and profiteering aside?

 

 

Edited January 20, 2022 by tobyjugg2