Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[tobyjugg2]

as do I

 

That 'sovereignty' and 'protecting our borders' was sold so heavily, yet despite a couple of years to implement things which should have been 'ready to go' the moment leave was triggered STILL aren't in place ...

NI should have been and should be a simple admin process 90%+ of which was already there

 

I would simply apply the rules as they were agreed - to the letter - as only partially doing that has Johnson and Frost screaming

 

Imagine the court case

Frost: They are being mean - they wont give us our cake and eat it and want us to implement what we signed. and We've only had about 5 years to start doing things - nowhere near long enough and just because we haven't done the things we should have done long ago shouldn't mean its our fault and we need to resolve sovereign issues

 

Court: Case found against the poopulists

 

 

Frost: WHAT - isnt that judge one of our cronies - why not. Anyway, I'm an unelected glorified spad so i can over-rule any court of law or international agreement

 

 

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[honeybee13]

The FT is saying that HMG is looking for new external lawyers to advise on overhauling NI trading arrangements post-Brexit.

 

Sir Jonathan Jones, who resigned over the possible 'limited and speciifc' breaking of international law is quoted as saying that it could indicate they aren't happy with current advice and are looking for advisers who favour of triggering Article 16 with a view to rewriting the Brexit agreement.

[tobyjugg2]

Current lawyers and scientific advisors

But mr Frost thats a breach of both the agreement and international law ..

But mr Johnson, we are advising masks must be mandatory, and schools must have better ventilation

 

Frost and Johnson:

You're sacked, get me someone who knows what I want to hear and who I can point the finger at when its shown to be wrong

 

 

 

 

... and it seems Jersey has agreed to some more of the French boats having licenses

I think Johnson has realised that France doing even a bit of a Johnson and carrying on doing it until courts and appeals a loooooong time in the future might decide otherwise ... goes both ways - and that Johnson and his oppos doesnt even have the upper hand there - just less morals

- reciprocity

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[tobyjugg2]

Rayner really raining down on Johnsons parade of lies today. Impressive.

 

Labour need to do with Starmer what the tories did with Johnson - keep him out of the spotlight

[tobyjugg2]

Effectively defines the postion of Tory MP as just a route to lobby for their real jobs

Utter disgrace

Just when you think they have plumbed the depths of cronysim and self serving, they show you that there is a whole new floor below that

 

 

Owen Paterson suspension blocked by Tories – follow live

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add to that the reinstatement of a sexual predator who abused his position to put pressure on a junior

 

Rob Roberts: Disgraced MP back in Conservative Party on Monday

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Rob Roberts, who was suspended for sexually harassing a staff member, will be readmitted in days.

 

 

Nothing new though

 

Ex-Tory MP Charlie Elphicke jailed for two years for sexual assaults | Rape and sexual assault | The Guardian

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Judge describes ex-Dover MP as ‘sexual predator who used success and respectability as a cover’

 

 

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[honeybee13]

Awful. TJ.

 

Labour have said they'll boycott the new committee and journos think it will be an all=Tory committee. If they decide in favour of Paterson, it won't look great.

[tobyjugg2]

Correction:

Effectively defines the position of Tory MP as just a route to lobby for their real employers

[tobyjugg2]

 

[tobyjugg2]

Stepping out of (as far as one can) the figurative and actual scummy effluent outpoured by the Tories and there antics for a moment

 

an interesting opinion piece perspective

 

How Britain betrayed Macron - UnHerd

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The President's relationship with Boris is beyond repair

 

[tobyjugg2]

Its probably a major reason why Brexit has failed miserably beyond even the warnings

The Brexit pigs cant fly when they wont pull their snouts out of the trough long enough to achieve something other than enriching themselves, and all we ever see is the other end.

 

Taxpayer paid MP and paid more lobbyist Owen Patterson told sky news he:

 “wouldn’t hesitate” to act in the same manner “tomorrow” and that he continues to work with (for?) the two firms.

 

 

Unrepentant ex-minister in lobbying sleaze row says he’d ‘do it again’

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The MP said that the standards commissioner did not interview any of his 17 witnesses

 

and the 17 'witnesses (his paymasters and involved chums?) submitted written testimony - which was considered

[honeybee13]

The Frost/Beaune talks today could be interesting, Johnson's pitbull vs Macron's attack dog. Just when they thought the Brits were being a bit more constructive, we've gone back to the old script.

 

UK set to take inflexible line over Brexit fishing row in next talks | Brexit | The Guardian

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Brexit minister David Frost will defend current position despite hopes a more positive dynamic is emerging

 

[tobyjugg2]

More from D(r)owning (in sleeze) street:

 

Boris Johnson has admitted receiving a free holiday at a luxurious Spanish villa linked to Zac Goldsmith.

The property is marketed online for rentals, reportedly for as much as £25,000 a week

 

 

The register said: “The prime minister has a longstanding personal friendship with the Goldsmith family and, in that capacity, in October 2021 stayed in a holiday home in southern Spain which was provided free of charge by the Goldsmiths.

 

Johnson awarded (his  'longstanding personal friend') Goldsmith a peerage after the latter lost his Richmond seat in 2019, and allowed him to keep his job as an environment minister.

 

 

[honeybee13]

I guess everyone assumed that, TJ.

 

Meanwhile, talk on Twitter is that Paterson is about to resign. It seems the vote wasn't about him after all. Some are suggesting that it could be more about the standards commissioner investigating the redecorating of Downing Street soon. 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Not just that HB, ALL the sleaze including PPE and awarding contracts to incompetent and not properly authorsied testin centers - let alone Johnson unlawfully proroguing parliament and lying at the dispatch box

It remains an attempt to get the sleaze investigations under sleazy liar Johnsons control

 

Paterson was just an excuse to try it on - if chancer Johnson got away with it - then win win.

The battle is still on.

 

 

Paterson:

 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

These dont seem to be having any problems exporting/importing meat to/from UK/Island of Ireland ....

Sad that they need to, but ... hey ... heads up frosty the gobshite

 

UK meat being sent to EU for butchering due to staff shortages

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‘It’s all a bit desperate,’ says industry chief as British producers send to Ireland and re-import for sale

 

 

yes, I realise its not processed ... but ...

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[tobyjugg2]

I see that at long last there is real pressure for an independent investigation in cash for lobbying, cash for contracts,  and cash for peerages (which is undoubtedly why Paterson resigned - on the promise of a peerage when the heat died down enough)

£3million quid to the Tories _  a peerage and money from the UK taxpayer for life .. and ongoing opportunities for payments from businesses

 

Adding to wasted taxpayer money for a private showing of new bond film, holidays for peerages, flying from COP to a male only privileged lunch at a private club, millions to PPE pals who supply faulty recalled testing kit lobbied for by Paterson ... while Johnson says 'let the f***ing bodies pile high .....  the list literally goes on and on

 

"The former (Tory) prime minister said it suggested Boris Johnson’s administration was “politically corrupt”"

 

 

 

New Tory sleaze row amid report £3m donors ‘get seats in Lords’

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All but one of the party’s 16 treasurers, and 22 biggest donors, have been offered peerages since 2010

 

‘Shameful’: John Major hits out at handling of Owen Paterson scandal | John Major | The Guardian

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Former PM said trying to shield MP from punishment suggested Boris Johnson’s government was ‘politically corrupt’

 

Boris Johnson sleaze crisis deepens amid pressure on Covid deals | Conservatives | The Guardian

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Sir John Major attacks PM’s actions as ‘shameful’ while poll shows slump in Tory support

 

Analysis: Boris Johnson's government in fresh swirl of murk and sleaze accusations

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Boris Johnson's government is mired in allegations of sleaze.

 

 

Boris Johnson sleaze disaster deepens amid strain on Covid offers | Conservatives - Newsplaneta

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The row over Tory sleaze reached new heights on Saturday night time as MPs demanded particulars of any lobbying by Owen Paterson of...

 

 

 

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[unclebulgaria67]

@tobyjugg2    There is a very bad stench coming from this Government.

 

An investigation into how PPE contracts were awarded will be interesting ?

 

While the spotlight is on Government, I suspect paid lobbying by MP's and Lords will be found in other parties represented in Parliament.

[brassnecked]

Paid lobbying is corruption in all but name, and is corrosive to Democracy, Cardiff Senedd as bad if not worse as is more parochial, and chummy.

[tobyjugg2]

Add to that the reports that the populist whips threatened 'new' Tory MP's with them losing funding for their constituencies if they didn't vote as demanded

Blackmail? Further misuse of taxpayer funds?,  both +corruption?

 

[honeybee13]

Jolyon Maugham is looking into misuse of public funds in connection with the Paterson vote.

[tobyjugg2]

and with reports that Frost is just stiring up trouble with the EU to cover for the corruption and abuses at home ..

I think its more complex than that

 

Johnson has nothing to lose and no morals. I think he's been looking to be kicked out for some time so he can walk away from the chaos he has generated

 

So If he starts a trade war with the EU he might think that

 

a) he can cover for his abuses, corruption and incompetence at home

I think he is wrong. The EU will completely cut off the UK while minimising the impact to the island of Ireland, so the main damage will be further damage to UK businesses - but Johnson has demonstrated he doesn't give a damn about that

 

b) The likely real fall back of a trade war with the EU

The UK will have little option but to bring forward all the changes Johnson wants for trade (what will we trade?) with the pacific region and start shipping in hormone injected and bleached chicken, beef and GM crops from America and Australia under 'emergency measures'

 

All of which will place the Uk as a powerless suplicant of the US, worse than we ever were @ WWII

 

No doubt he will try to include options in his 'emergency measures' to prevent Scotland and NI from seceding from the union.

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[brassnecked]

Looks like Johnson, his Front Bench and Hancock, Whitty and others should be in jail.

[tobyjugg2]

seems a bit rich to me that the speaker, who allowed the amendment, is proposing his own changes

He doesn't even hold johnson to apologising for misleading (lying) the house at the box

[brassnecked]

WEstminster as a whole is now an Augean Stables that needs cleansing.

[tobyjugg2]

apt