Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[honeybee13]

'Barking out orders' - is that what government working with businesses means?

 

I get the impression they're going to 'let the market deal with it; and leave businesses on their own. HMG don't seem to be doing anything much.

[tobyjugg2]

So lets take the 'easier documentation route

 

What have the Brexit government, who shouted about all the benefits with no risks, actually done to manage rather than munge the brexit they sold? (apart from 'hostile environment' shipping people who have lived and worked here all their life off to Jamaica)

* Border/customs? - as they shouted so loudly about protecting them

* Standards ec/kite mark ? - as they claimed standards would increase

* trade deals bigger than the EU across the world? - or even English produce able to be picked and shipped across England let alone anywhere else

 

Even that claimed 'billions spent on training' unclebulgaria regurgitates from some populist ministers dishonest and deceiving soundbite:

- where's that then other than on some populist spreadsheet claiming some actually reduced existing/prior 'possible' (as in not against the laws of physics despite nothing real being in place) expenditure, as new ... let alone actually implemented/spent on training

 

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[honeybee13]

I get the impression they thought they could just close the door on Europe on Brexit day and carry on as before. I'm not sure they expected to be sorting things out afterwards or continuing to negotiate, although no doubt civil servants told them.

[tobyjugg2]

Maybe HB - were they really that incompetent?

- they will no doubt claim 'how could anyone know' despite many others who clearly did know and say, but were they really that incompetent? - and there is no excuse for claims of 'no one could have expected it' now

They managed to set up a fast track lane for approving £millions for pubs landlords, pet and cake shop populist pals to get money for PPE they didn't have pretty damn quick - and they've apparently paid them in advance

 

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[honeybee13]

This may not be directly related to what you're saying but I'm sure Chris Grey has written about it recently in his blog. This is the fifth anniversary edition with links to previous weeks.

 

Brexit & Beyond

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"Best guy to follow on Brexit for intelligent analysis" Annette Dittert, ARD German TV. "By far one of the best analysts of Brexit" Sarah Carey, The...

 

[tobyjugg2]

Seems odd to let scientists/politicians promoting damaging policies/narratives; let alone in a pandemic; off the hook because they CLAIM they were only doing what they believed in. When what they believed was not evidenced & what they said did untold harm.

 

- slightly paraphrasing Deepti Gurdasani

 

[tobyjugg2]

Millions of vegetables thrown away as labour shortages hit farmers

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3.5m heads of broccoli and 1.9m heads of cauliflower have been thrown away by just one producer

 

 

Farmers Weekly Podcast Episode 72: Red Tractor funding and labour shortage - Farmers Weekly

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In this episode, cereal growers have voted to withhold funding from the Red Tractor farm assurance scheme. We examine why. A shortage of UK farm...

 

 

 

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[honeybee13]

So depressing, TJ. What a waste.

[honeybee13]

Simon Jenkins in the Guardian. I always thought he was in favour of leaving.

 

Boris Johnson’s biggest lie about Europe is finally coming home to roost | Simon Jenkins | The Guardian

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From plummeting trade to drastic shortages of workers, needlessly leaving the single market has been disastrous, says Guardian columnist Simon...

 

[brassnecked]

Don't worry TJ with the Vaccine Passports aka Social Control Passes, people will get Social Credits to top up their UBI by picking vegetables..............In the ALL DIGITAL Britcoin Sunak sunny uplands...

[tobyjugg2]

LOL

 

taxing working pensioners more to pay for those not working and in care homes aren't they - bet that doesn't include 'pensioners like Prince Charles and Lord hahhaw of France .. (who, last I heard, was leaving France because they wanted details on his earnings) or the many over 65-67's in the lords and parliament let alone MD's

 

.. in addition to Johnsons 2.5% increase in NI .. yep 2.5% NOT the 1.25% Johnson lies about 1.25% from employees and 1.25% from employers - many of whom will undoubtedly consider it a raise for the workers ..

So thats around 12 billion in extra NI charges plus the 25 billion in other taxes - they'll be able to cover their mates bills in just a few years at that rate

- no way the NHS and care system will get more than a tiny bit of it.

 

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[tobyjugg2]

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Boris's Brexit going well ?

 

BBC News - UK on course to drop from Germany's top 10 trading partners https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58484454

[honeybee13]

Not Brexit, it can't be. Blame it on the pandemic.

[tobyjugg2]

and the (literally now - see wild weather)  poopulists think US trade is going to be 'better'

LOL - they should ask the US's more important partners mexico and Canada how that works

 

Mind you. Johnson will get a taste of his own medicine in that the US will happily 'renegotiate' (renege?) any deal as soon as it suits

- although unlike Johnson, they tend to get a better deal at the other parties expense.

 

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[honeybee13]

It's David and Goliath, isn't it? Fairly obvious who will win, plus a US trade deal can take up to 10 years.

 

Changing the subject, Patel is threatening to send migrant boats back into French waters and have the UK's interpretation of maritime law rewritten so it looks as if it doesn't break international law. Or the Geneva convention.

 

She suggested to Gerald Darmanin of France that they should set up a joint patrol force. I loved his reply that it would infringe French sovereignty.

[tobyjugg2]

Thats actually a superb response in so many ways

 

Can the UK hire him?

[tobyjugg2]

20 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

It's David and Goliath, isn't it? Fairly obvious who will win, plus a US trade deal can take up to 10 years.

 

 

Not if one side (the USA) gets everything it wants straight away HB

If Australia can get a deal thats 6x better for Australia than the UK ....

- seemingly without even trying very hard

- I doubt the UK could afford a US deal - even before Johnson bankrupted us

 

.. let alone just England and wales

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[unclebulgaria67]

UK now in a spiral of tax increases to cover increased costs.

 

The mixture or Brexit and Covid is deadly.

 

UK after Brexit  wanted to set up as the worlds biggest financial centre with light touch regulation. This won't happen, as the trade deals with US and other countries will not enable this.   The EU Brexit deal did not include financial services from what I remember.

 

Where next for the UK economy ?

[tobyjugg2]

 

Boris 'Inveterate and unapologetic LIAR' Johnson lies:

“We should never forget, after all we’ve been through, that we are the party of free enterprise, the private sector and low taxation.”

 

While the so called party of low taxes is implementing the highest tax load on the nation since world war 2 (IFS)

- despite running away from a quite small war in Afghanistan as they just can't cope on their own - and nobody trusts them enough to work with them

-  mostly because of monstrous waste and mismanagement in the COVID crisis, and monstrous incompetent and neglectful  mismanagement of Brexit

 

The so called party of business and the private sector

is putting UK businesses out of business through populist policies and failures, NOT business capability and competitiveness and failure to manage the Brexit issues the populists themselves generated

 

The so called Party of 'free enterprise'

implements a preference for crony pals (no matter how lacking in requirements) fast lane - hardly free enterprise, just preference for pals - massively at the cost of the NHS - to pay which (their pals) the tax increases are undoubtedly aimed

 

The so called Party of sovereignty

runs whinging to the US and Australia 'please please give us a deal, anything, we wont cheat you like we do the others just give us a deal headline' 

and to France to help police sovereign UK waters ... in a way that breaches international law)...

.. and to the USA or France to host the UK  'sovereign' nuclear deterrent

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[tobyjugg2]

Oh and another over streached bubble going pop

Property market rocked as giant Evergrande struggles to repay $300bn debts | China | The Guardian

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Shares in Hong Kong-listed firm slump 10% and bond trade suspended amid fears for shaky Chinese real estate market

 

With more properly regulated businesses moving to the EU, whats left with in the incompetent poopulist run UK may well make the UK and its taxpayers IMMENSELY vulnerable to this sort of thing ...

 

Yes, Brexiters like Redwood, Smugg and dyson have moved a lot of their business to the EU, but its what movers (rats/sinking ships?) leave in the UK we should worry about: are they liferafts .. or lead weights?

 

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[tobyjugg2]

Oh and back to the Australia deal Truss/UK poopulist surrender terms ...

 

"Just weeks before the UK hosts what have been described as the most important climate talks ever, it has emerged ministers dropped pledges to bind Australia to climate targets in its efforts to strike a trade deal.

The revelation, coming from a leaked email obtained by Greenpeace, will heap further pressure on Johnson ahead of the Cop26 summit in Glasgow at the end of next month. Greenpeace said the concession “rips the heart out of” the landmark Paris aims, while Labour called it “a massive betrayal of our country and our planet”"

- Independent

 

 

https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/uk-secretly-ditches-climate-pledge-in-australia-trade-deal/

 

"In a leaked email seen by Greenpeace UK, three senior ministers, Liz Truss (Secretary of State for International Trade), David Frost (Minister of State for EU Relations) and Kwasi Kwarteng (Secretary of State for Business) are named as agreeing to ditch references to the temperature commitments in the Paris Agreement on climate in order to get the Australian trade deal “over the line”.

This renders using the term Paris Agreement utterly useless."

 

"Just last month the UK Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, wrote to Greenpeace and other environmental NGOs reaffirming that any trade deal with Australia would, “include a chapter on trade and environment which not only reaffirms commitments to multilateral environmental agreements, including the Paris Agreement but also commits both parties to collaborate on climate and environmental issues. We are clear that more trade will not come at the expense of the environment.”

Details from the leaked email demonstrate that what Boris Johnson wrote in that letter was a lie."

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[tobyjugg2]

Paypal introduces new fees between UK and EU

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The new fees will come into effect in November, PayPal has said

 

Using your credit card abroad?

"Visa and Mastercard have announced that such fees will be increased fivefold from mid-October."

 

[tobyjugg2]

Supermarket Food shortages here for the long term and going to get worse says Food and Drink Federation boss.

 

JIT (just in time) system relied on by many industries for the last 25 years has (as long defined as a cost of brexit, but falsely denied by Brexit cheerleaders) has collapsed mostly due to Brexit generated 'hostile environment' labour shortages including food pickers, lorry drivers and food processing workers and Brexit generated customs delays and costs

 

 

UK supermarket shortages will be permanent, trade body says

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‘We are now in for permanent shortages’, says boss of Food and Drink Federation

 

 

 

Perhaps Patel should be asking the boat migrants if they can drive lorries, pick fruit or process food before she risks drowning them?

 

[honeybee13]

From TJ's post: ‘We are now in for permanent shortages’, says boss of Food and Drink Federation

 

No 10 spokesman says food shortages will be over by Christmas. Just like the UK seeing off Covid in 12 weeks, as Alastair Campbell tweeted.

 

‘We are now in for permanent shortages’, says boss of Food and Drink Federation