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We used the car park at Broomfield hospital today. When my husband went to pay, the meter was being emptied. The chap said he would take the details and he keyed them into his phone then said OK that is your ticket for the day.

 

When we returned to the car a fine had been issued.

We couldn't find any one to discuss this with.

 

The fine was issued by Gemini parking solutions 

 Please can you offer any advice. Thank you 

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I've moved your thread to the Private Land Parking Enforcement forum.

 

BTW, it's not a fine, it's an invoice from a private company.

We could do with some help from you.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to gemini PCN - Broomfield hospital - conned by operator emptying machine?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Gemini Windscreen PCN - Broomfield hospital - conned by operator emptying machine?

please complete the questionnaire for a windscreen PCN i posted

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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1 The date of infringement?

19 May 2021
 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?]

No, we wanted advice first.
 

If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it,

suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

Has there been a response?

N/A
 

Please AS A PDFFILE  ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide]

 

If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first.

 

Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days]

No
 

What date is on it?

N/A
 

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence?

N/A
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide]

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?]

N/A
 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances]

N/A
 

5 Who is the parking company?

Gemini Parking Solutions
 

6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park?

Broomfield Hospital car park, Chelmsford, Essex

 

please do not put JPG Picture files into your post
 

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await the NTK which should arrive 29 - 56 from the incident.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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What happens then please as it is obviously after the 14 day period for payment at the lower rate. Also do you recommend that we contact the company direct to tell them what their staff are doing. Thank you. Your help is appreciated. 

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no you don't, you don't owe anything discounted or not, or even when it gets the unicorn food tax added.

 

lots of PCN threads here to read 

the more you read the stronger we become.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You've seen that this company are complete con artists.  There's no point in writing to them or appealing.  In fact you'd probably make things worse.

 

What could be a lot more effective would be to write to the hospital.  Explain what happened and demand they tell the fleecers to cancel.

We could do with some help from you.

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  • FTMDave changed the title to Gemini Windscreen PCN - Broomfield hospital, Chelmsford - conned by operator emptying machine?

Thank you. I am still unsure what happens after we receive N T K. This is a scary situation. 

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You can read other threads to see what people do after a NTK appears, we've seen it loads of times. It's not scary, we know what to do. They're not the police.

 

But as FTMDave says, the best thing is to write to the hospital and get them to tell the people they've put in to monitor parking to cancel this ticket.

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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Thanks that is reassuring. Do you have any idea who I should address a letter to at the hospital. I have emailed the PALs but not had any response yet. Not sure if they are the correct people to deal with. Thank you for your help. 

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I can't post links from my phone but do a search on CAG for other threads about this hospital. Type the name into the search box at the top of this page, in the red strip. 

 

At least one person got the charge cancelled. 

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Thanks to your advice I contacted the hospital and the notice has been cancelled. They claimed the message was sent to place us on the exemption list but due to signal issues it was not added resulting in the ticket. 

It has been confirmed as cancelled. Thanks again. 

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Brilliant, well done. :)  I'll alter your thread title to show your success.

 

Could you tell us a bit more about which department you contacted please? This could really help someone else with the same problem.

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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  • honeybee13 changed the title to Gemini Windscreen PCN - Broomfield hospital, Chelmsford - conned by operator emptying machine? - ** PCN CANCELLED **

I just addressed my letter to the hospital but it was dealt with by Robert Rutty.  car parking admin support Estates and facilities management directorate. I have an email address if it is OK to include that here. 

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Well done on your victory!  👏

 

Yes, please post the e-mail address, as HB says it could help someone else in the future.

 

Keep proof of the charge being cancelled, just in case Gemini "forget" to rip it up.

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Email address I used is Robert.Rutty @meht.nhs.uk

Obviously this is the hospital and not the parking company. 

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