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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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UKPC Windscreen PCN - outside lines - Valley Park Croydon - already appealed/refused.


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On 16 January 2020 I parked in Valley Park Croydon run by UK Parking Control Ltd. parked in a disabled bay with a valid blue badge on display.

 

came back to my car within a few minutes to find I had a ticket on my windscreen. had no idea what the ticket was for as the print was so tiny and the ticket was soaking wet as it was raining very heavy. took a photo of my car where I was parked and drove home.

 

My son could not read what the ticket said either and he had to take a picture of it and zoom in before we could read that I was incorrectly parked .(my driver's side wheels were over the yellow line. was parked in the end bay of a whole row of disabled bays, was not taking up two bays or obstructing any other vehicles. The car park holds approx 1000 cars but the car park on this Thursday evening had all but 20 cars dotted about.

 

I appealed to Popla but as expected re comments on the internet I was not surprised when they wrote back rejecting the appeal stating signage in the car park  states the rules. I had already sent them proof via loads of photos that no signage was visible at all.  told them I was not willing to pay and to take me to court as UKPl are a bunch of cowboys. I had only just lost my husband a a few months before and explained I really could not handle anymore unnecessary stress

 

I have heard nothing at all for over 1 year and then I get a letter this week asking for £170 within 14 days.

 

Please can somebody point me in the right direction.

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please complete the windscreen section of the following questionnaire, and scan up to one multipage PDF everything in/out inc the ticket and your appeals and their replies, etc etc the lot please

read our upload guide carefully and ENSURE you remove all ref/reg numbers and anything else that they can use to ID you being an anon user here.

then we can help you. 

 

Have you received a Parking Ticket? - Private Land Parking Enforcement - Consumer Action Group

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to UKPC Windscreen PCN - outside lines - Valley Park Croydon - already appealed/refused.

 

1 The date of infringement? 16/1/2020
 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? Yes

 

Has there been a response? yes
 

Yes but rejected, no reason given.  Unable to find letter.  Was 14 months ago and not had

 

Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) Believe so if this was initial charge letter

 

What date is on it? Unsure - no longer have letter. was about 10 days from initial windscreen notice
 

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? Unable to remember
 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] Not sure
 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] yes
 

5 Who is the parking company? UK Parking Control LTD
 

6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park. Valley Retail Park,Hesterman Way Croydon.

 

 

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and all the comms in/out please .

On 17/04/2021 at 23:16, dx100uk said:

scan up to one multipage PDF everything in/out inc the ticket and your appeals and their replies, etc etc the lot please

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

I no longer have the ticket only a picture of the ticket already sent over to you. I distroyed all communication in February this year as I have heard absolutely nothing since the previous March 2020.

 

The only communication letter I now hold is the one I reviewed from Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd dated 6th April.(notice of debt recovery) £170.00 unpaid parking charge.

 

Am so sorry I can't send what you are asking for. I thought that by taking a picture of the ticket (which I could hardly read) that I at least had a record of it.

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dont move without informing UKPC 

await a letter of claim IF one ever comes.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 3 months later...

Was there also a reply pack wanting i&e details as well mentioning the pre action protocol??

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Then it's probably not a proper Letter Before Claim and can be ignored.  Just to be on the safe side, upload it so we can have a look.

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had to hide your post

please remove ALL ref numbers.

and rotate the scans too please...put them in ONE PDF only

read upload carefully.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes, it's come out fine.

 

It's not a proper Letter Before Claim, just a threatagram from DCBL.  Relax & ignore.

We could do with some help from you.

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oh god please no...

its a scamming parking company, nothing to lose sleep about....

you've been here since april and should have used the time to better to self help here and read up.

 

use our search top right of the red banner         ukpcs

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Microdot53, 

 

DCBL have a couple of company's

one is obviously their bailiff side where they frighten the living daylights out of people

another is their legal side and there is their third debt collecting side and it was the latter company that wrote to you.

They have less power than a dead cat. So no need to lose sleep over them. 

 

The legal side is a pretty useless bunch when it comes to going to Court - they are too greedy and ignorant to win most cases and the bailiff side are rarely called on as even if you lose in Court, unlikely in your case, then as long as the amount owed is paid within a month there will be no ccj involved nor bailiffs either. 

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just for clarity:

 

a 'bailiff' can NEVER be involved in any debt until it has been to court and judgement attained

 

their two types of bailiff

county court bailiffs - the court must approve court bailiff use at a separate later hearing 

 

DCBL are NOT Court Bailiffs but High Court Enforcement Officers, they can NEVER be involved in any civil 'debt' CCJ if it's under £600

 

bailiffs have NO right of force entry upon civil debt

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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