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looks like you've done AOS 

so thats that bit.

cpr ASAP - it should have gone out WEEKS ago as you knew about the claim on  – 24/11/21

though they probably wont bother till WS stage.

 

make sure you research PCN Claimform threads 

 

and as this is not you in court, it might help you to read hobtails thread.

 

 

 

the defence will be almost the same i expect but

thats not due till xmas eve, but i'd file it by 4pm 23rd

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

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and they

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51 minutes ago, EveOwes said:

I will do the CPR in the morning as I'm too tired now.  I don't see how this can be defended if nobody knows anything about it. 

You won't like me saying this, but the reason "nobody knows anything about it" is because you threw the original paperwork away, didn't SAR the company and still haven't sent the CPR.

 

It really is up to you.  We can help you beat the fleecers but if you constantly don't do what the site advises then you had better get used to the idea of getting hammered in court.  Your choice.

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and the OP is not the one in court...

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi. Happy Christmas. I’ve just realised that the defence to this court case needs to be put in by 26/12 I think (33 days from 24/11)

 

if anyone has a few mins to spare can you tell me whether the defence of not being aware of it counts. As in we haven’t seen a ticket and no knowledge of a notice to keeper.  We only received a couple of letters from DCBL this year - 5 years after the event.  We cannot identify who might have been driving the car at the time. Is this a reasonable defence? It is the truth. 
 

I think DCB Legal were hoping to win cases by default because of the Xmas holiday and distraction. 
 

im sorry but I almost forgot about it too so any advice at all would be appreciated. Nothing back yet on CPR. 

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I think you have extra time due to Bank Holidays, but it's best to err on the side of caution, so, OK, file tomorrow.

 

Simply file our generic defence which can later be fleshed out, plus the point that Andyorch brought up in post 51 -

 

The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature which fails to comply with CPR 16.4.  The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

 

1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [motor vehicle].

 

2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant.

 

3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. 

 

4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant.

 

5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer. 

 

6.  The Claimant's invoice/PCN was issued more than five and a half years ago and it is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation and claim nearly six years' interest.

 

7.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.

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27th by 4pm you have 1 extra day.

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I don’t believe this. My laptop is being repaired so I used a different one to login. But I had to mess around with passwords etc. 
anyway I’m in Mcol and entered the claim number and password but system is saying they’re incorrect. 
I feel like screaming tbh

i think it thinks I’m me and not the defendant. 

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If MCOL doesn't work you can e-mail the court.

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wont be anything to do with the device.

mcol often has hissy fits.

 

MCOL is only one way of responding to a claim. 
(AOS, DEFENCE, N180 ETC)
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If you are having problems logging in, or would prefer not to use MCOL
you can fax, email or post your response to the Court instead. 

If you send your response by e mail 
please send it to [email protected] 

ensure you quote “Claim number xxx xxx (type of response i'e AOS , Defence, N180)” in the subject field. 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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just copy and paste your defence into an email and do the subject header as advised above

 

you are a litigant in person and have certain leeway and its the xmas/new year holiday period.

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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 Didn’t do a N180 though. I will do one and send it as well. 

 

Your not at that stage yet...the court will send you a blank DQ should the claimant wish to proceed.....if the claim is stayed there is no requirement to submit a DQ or allocate the claim.

 

Andy

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Sorry to hear about your illness.  I hope the symptoms are not too bad.

 

If you're able to answer, two questions.

 

1.  How long have the fleecers had to reply to the CPR request?

 

2.  Is your daughter infected too?  Or can she work on this and go to the post office?

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Thanks. The whole family got ill. I ended up in hospital briefly but getting better now. I need to go to the post office tomorrow anyways. 
 

I sent the CPR a few weeks ago but can’t remember the exact date. I do have the proof… yes sent on 15/12

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OK, no rush then, especially with it being Christmas/New Year.

 

My thinking is to SAR the fleecers if they don't reply to the CPR say by the end of the month.

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