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where.. cause it ideally needs removing...but of course thats why we ask everyone to always post defences here before submitting ....just in-case there are silly mistakes made..which i must sadly say are a re-occurring theme in most of your threads in oneway or another.

 

even though its stated he denied parking there... the options of the OR statement give the impression the defendant doesn't really know..always better never to dangle carrots in a defence.

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The work you're putting in to fight CEL is superb.  FWIW, the last three times CEL took Caggers to court, CEL got a good kicking, so they are eminently beatable.   However, a cautionary tale

As you are not liable for this PCN I think that we could try and head this off at the pass to coin an old wetern film cliche. To save the time of yourself,  CEL and the Court you could send a Cea

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Totally agree looks very amateurish and indecisive so a lesson learnt for the future. The wife is going over to the car park today to take photos because in their POC they claim he parked in Tilys Carpentry Car park but on the PCN they claim he parked in Grooms House Car Park. I just want to see if CEL look after Tilys car park too according to Google map they don't but need to check.

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well good photos of the perspective that a driver see before entering 

position of all signs and their small text too if not already here.

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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My hunch was right Tilys Carpentry is not monitored by CEL they have a picket fence around their car park with a generic "No Unauthorised Parking" sign nailed to it.

So the parking offence was committed on a site that CEL have no jurisdiction even though their POC claims to have.

The Grooms House signage by CEL is now off the floor and stands about six foot high to the right of the car park which is now clearly visible .

 

 

Tilys Car Park 2.pdf

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no it says 'no unauthorised predestrians'

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Does it I thought it said "No Unauthorised Vehicles Beyond This Point"?

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So to sum up the car park situation.

 

In their PCN the fleecers state your son parked in Grooms House car park, which is correct.

 

But in the POC they quote Tily Carpentry car park.

 

What a bunch of idiots!

 

This will be a laugh when it comes to WS stage, your son can just state he has never parked in Tily Carpentry car park in his life, and indeed the fleecers own photos show the car in a completely different car park.

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By the look of things they certainly screwed this one up, finally the tables have turned.

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Be very careful of a simple naming error ...dont assume anything.

 

Read it as 'this car park' 

D entered and exited an anpr system ..there is evidence of that.

 

oh and those signs..look at the word spacing can't be parking not enough letters.

 

its a std risk assessment sign to protect the public from potential danger. Nothing to do with cel at all ....

 

Dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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It would help if it was possible to read the signage at the entrance and the signs inside the carpark. Just about the only thing I can read is "Important Message"but I have no idea what the message is. I do see see a sign that says  Permit Holders Only. But I cannot read the sign beneath it. If the car did not have a permit then the driver was trespassing which only the landowner can pursue not CEL. 

Is it possible to get photos of the signs that we can read please. The signs at the entrance, their terms and Conditions and whether there are different T&Cs within the carpark. The font size seems too small on the notices that can be seen, but the small font sizes does  make a contract with drivers difficult to claim.

 

 

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Okay I’ll go after work and take some

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Extra pictures with the small print but these signs look different to the ones taken in 15th January 2020.

Just asking but is there a "period of grace" applicable to any of the the times?

Doc1.pdf

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Morning everyone the boy has received a "Notice of Proposed Allocation To The Small Claims Track" I've filled these out before but is there anything in particular I should know when filling out the form, thanks

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no to mediation

1 wit him

 

3 copies

i court

1 the fleecers solicitor (omit/email/sig)

1 for you.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Brilliant thank you

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Virgin Media - Started 8/10/07 - Settled

GE Money - Started 28/02/08 - Settled

British Credit Trust - S.A.R - Prelim sent

Enterprise Inns - court papers served

Natwest - S.A.R - Prelim Sent

 

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