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Hello and welcome to CAG. Yes, you're in the right place and we know all about VCS trying to rip people off at airports.   Could we go back a stage? We need to understand what led to this so

shame you responded esp by email NEVER DO THAT  and NEVER...RING anyone. do not appeal   use our search top right  type in No stopping and get reading up.

The letter you received was from Excel parking yet VCS are also involved. That cannot only one company can have the contract. VCS do not rely on PoFA so they cannot pursue the keeper-only the driver i

A DCA is not a BAILIFF

and has

ZERO legal powers on any debt no matter what it's type.

 

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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it has no if's or but's which is why it's worded they way it is.

 

they have no more powers than you or i if we think someone owes us money...end of.

 

if you have such a debt.

start a new topic by hitting create in the top red banner in the forum named after whomever was the original 'creditor'

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I ignored the threats as advised before but today I have received a money claim online from the courts.

I have redacted and attached it.

 

I suppose my next move is defend and counterclaim but perhaps acknowledge service within 14 days first then use the 28 days to construct a powerful counterclaim and earn some money for the distress they are causing me and ask the judge to get it for me quickly?

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to VCS Spycar PCN PAPLOC Now Claimform - No Stopping 47) STOPPING IN A RESTRICTED BUS STOP /STAND Robin Hood Airport Doncaster
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Name of the Claimant Vehicle Control Services Limited

 

Claimants Solicitors: Elms Legal Ltd

 

Date of issue – 29 April 2021

 

Date for AOS - 17 May 2021

 

Date to submit Defence - 31st May 2021

 

What is the claim for

 

1.The claim is for breaching the terms and conditions set on private land.

 

2.The defendant's vehicle XXXX, was identified in the Robin Hood Airport Doncaster on the 12/10/2020 in breach of the advertised terms and conditions; namely Stopping in a restricted bus stop / stand.

 

3.At all material times the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver.

 

4. The terms and conditions upon  entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct.

 

5.The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the consequences of failure to comply,  namely a parking charge notice will be issued, and the Defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability.

 

6.The claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest.

 

What is the value of the claim?

 

Amount Claimed £160

court fees £25

legal rep fees £50

Total Amount £235

 

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not sure where it says start a new thread?
threads merged..

 

 pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
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 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked.
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.
.
 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]
 

…………...

 

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Does this look okay for sending as is?

 

I have deleted it as it says I should not reproduce the template... but I am not sure that I understand how to get a comment on it....

 

What I particularly wanted to be sure of is if I right to refer to the "following / the document(s) mentioned in your Particulars of Claim" and if all of them are applicable in my case according to the POC.

   

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just sent the 31.14 as is

after entering the relevant claim details

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Is there any point in leaving the defence for a lengthy period other than necessary for its  preparation? Or is it better to get it done as soon as I am able to?

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Hi.

 

As far as I can see, you haven't read any other private parking threads to understand how this works. If you don't mind my saying, you need to read more threads so you grasp the whole process.

 

HB

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks a lot for that!

I excitedly read this bit ....

 

"It is the Airports Act 1986  which applies to nearly all airports  including Southend airports. 

 

Byelaws are covered at S.63

 (2)Any such byelaws may, in particular, include byelaws—

(d)for regulating vehicular traffic anywhere within the airport, except on roads within the airport to which the road traffic enactments apply, and in particular (with that exception) for imposing speed limits on vehicles within the airport and for restricting or regulating the parking of vehicles or their use for any purpose or in any manner specified in the byelaws;

 

So it is there in black and white.

It is an Act of Parliament that far outranks any stupid VCS sign. "

 

The bus stop in question is just outside of the gates to the airport and if I recall well the satnav was not yet showing where to go at the roundabout just ahead and so to give it a few seconds to give the correct direction and for safety, I may have pulled over into the bus stop and waited for it to tell me the way to go - then boom someone claims that I was parked and wants to milk me!

 

So does this byelaw still apply since the bus stop is not inside the airport fence?

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it must be else they can't try and ticket you, 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I read that you think you stopped outside the airport area. They say on their PCN that the postcode you stopped in was

DN9 3RH which appears to be inside the airport.

Could you please clarify which road you stopped on as they frequently get the postcode wrong, along with everything else. If the postcode is wrong, then theri whole case fails.

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pix on NTK match google earth images of inside the boundary of the airport

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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16 hours ago, dx100uk said:

pix on NTK match google earth images of inside the boundary of the airport

Thanks for that! That was very helpful and timely.

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I have been searching for the airports act and this "

Byelaws are covered at S.63

 (2)Any such byelaws may, in particular, include byelaws—

(d)for regulating vehicular traffic anywhere within the airport, except on roads within the airport to which the road traffic enactments apply, and in particular (with that exception) for imposing speed limits on vehicles within the airport and for restricting or regulating the parking of vehicles or their use for any purpose or in any manner specified in the byelaws;

" so I can cite it in my defence but I do not know where to find it.

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