UKCPS - Letter Before Claim (LBC) received - No Stopping at Manchester Piccadilly station

[Masterchij]

Hi,

 

I would like some help please. I have received a LBC from UKCPS for Non stopping event in July 2020.

They have given me 30 days to reply before taking up court action.

 

I was wondering if anyone has been in this situation and whether I should reply, or just wait to receive the Court notice.

If I am to reply can you please provide a template or guide on what points to make in my reply.

 

Just a little background,

I replied to the initial PCN stating that I disputed their claim it and wouldn't provide driver details.

I also requested proof of any such claims including the grace periods allowed in their policy.

 

To this they replied saying my appeal was rejected (even though the letter sent wasn't an appeal, but a dispute of claims),

 

they also attached pictured of the car parked and the driver leaving the car, though they did not specify period parked for, or indeed put up any pictures of signage on site or near the vehicle.

 

Since then I have received at least 10 reminders, which included debt recovery letters most likely from a made up company, and this LBC is now from most likely another made up solicitor firm called CST LAW.

 

Any advise appreciated

[honeybee13]

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Don't rush to reply. Can you post up a redacted copy [pdf] of the letter please?

 

Also, we need the information requested in the forum sticky so that the guys can advise you on this.

 

 

Best, HB

 

[dx100uk]

100's of threads here on this place click the link below and get reading up

 

Programmable Search Engine (google.com)

 

simply reply with a snotty letter.

 

you do NOT ignore it.

 

post your idea up here 1st for checking

 

dx

 

[FTMDave]

You were right to ignore all the earlier bilge they sent you, but a LBC is a formal notice of intention to start court proceedings, so you need to reply now.  If you show you'd be huge trouble for them in court it may persuade them to go after an easier target instead.  As dx says, snotty letter time. 

[lookinforinfo]

There is a questionnaire on post 2 that if you could fill in , it would help us to see ways of getting out of paying the crooks. 

[FTMDave]

There has been superb work this evening on the forum by a new member who wants to fight back against the fleecers at the same location.

 

We would like to help you, but if you can't be pestered to fill in a simple form there's little we can do.

 

The reason for filling in the sticky is to see if UKCPS have complied with the POFA 2012 law - they won't have - but if you don't get your act together we will never know.

[Masterchij]

Hi Honeybee,

 

Apologies for late reply, not had access to computers, scanners or printers last few days as I have been self isolating at Home.

 

Below are the answers to Questionnaire requested.

 

I have also attached Redacted copies of the NTK, their reply to my dispute of the charge, and the Letter before claim from solicitor.

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

(must be received within 14 days from the Incident)

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 24-07-2020.

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 03-08-2020. Redacted NTK attached.
 

3 Date received Missed the initial NTK.

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes. They have used CCTV to identify vehicle, but however NTK says MNPR. NTK mentions 'NO STOPPING', not parking

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No. But having missed the initial NTK, I sent them a reply disputing the charge,

 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Yes. They replied on the 16-09-2020 (redacted copy attached). The reply shows further CCTV capture of vehicle parked and driver walking away from vehicle. But neither NTK nor reply defines period.

7 Who is the parking company? UKCPS

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Gateway House Piccadilly. (Behind Piccadilly train station). Manchester

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. IAS

 

Any help would be appreciated

 

Thanks

2020-08-03 NTK UKCPS (RD).pdf 2020-09-16 UKCPS Reply (RD).pdf

 

Letter before claim attached this time

2021-01-15 CST Law Letter Before Claim RD.pdf

 

Hi FTMDave,

 

Apologies been self isolating last few days so had limited access to anything. All help you are giving is much appreciating and look forward to hearing about how the New member is fairing.

 

 

[FTMDave]

Sorry, that was a bit unnecessary from me.  Give us all a minute, we'll do our best to help you fight this. 

[FTMDave]

You need to send a snotty letter to CST Law.  There are examples on Ellemar21, crashlanding21 & HarryCS's threads under yours that you could tweak.  Please post up a draft of what you propose to send.

 

Two new Caggers sussed out that UKCPS added extra signs in November 2019 & February 2020 because the earlier signage was pants, but as your ticket was in July 2020 that's irrelevant to you.