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I received a letter last week for parking my car in a private car park without paying for parking. I had paid using justpark app (approved by the parking management) and while I looked into it I realised I had selected the wrong car in the app.

 

I sent an appeal email to the Countrywide Parking Management providing them the proof of parking as well as invoice issued by justcar which clearly shows my name and address.

 

Explained to them I had paid for parking but I had selected wrong car in the app. I was thinking they'll accept my appeal but to my surprise they've rejected my appeal.


I'd like to know if anyone else had similar issue and how to deal with it?

 

I really don't want to pay the fine because I had paid for parking so they received money for the duration I was parked there. Now they want me to hand them over additional £60!

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Hello and welcome to CAG. We've dealt with Countrywide before.

 

Please could you let us have the information requested in the forum sticky and we'll take it from there.

 

 

It's not a fine, by the way, we call these letters speculative invoices. Don't do anything other than let us ahve the details, the guys should be along later.

 

Best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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If you can prove you paid, then you're in the clear.  There is a legal term, "de minimis" AKA "the law does not deal with trivialities".  Although you made a minor mistake they got their money, they suffered no loss, end of story.  Every time a PPC has been daft enough to take a motorist to court in these circumstances the judge has given them a right good kicking.

 

Of course they will hope you don't know this and will do their bit to destroy the Amazon by sending silly "threatening" letters until they eventually give up.

 

It wasn't a surprise your appeal was rejected - even though you're legally in the right! - the PPCs never, ever accept appeals - ever.

 

Note for the future - never appeal.  Firstly, it's a waste of time.  More importantly, before you appealed the PPC knew who the keeper of the vehicle was, but not the driver.  Lots of people drive other people's cars, my son often drives mine.  You probably outed yourself as the driver.  It's not of great importance in your case, but something to remember for the future.

 

Please fill in HB's sticky, it'll help us find even more holes in their claim.

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Wrong reg is soon to be outlawed as a reason to issue a speculative invoice.

 

ignore until/unless you ever get a letter of claim

 

get reading in this ppc forum and you'll understand why and also why ppc's can never fine people.

 

DX

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Everyone thanks for all your help so far. I really appreciate it.

 

As advised I've filled in the questionnaire and have also uploaded the original notice as well as reply to my appeal.

 


1 The date of infringement? 12/12/2020
 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? Yes 22/12/2020
 

if you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it,

I had filled in the information on the appeals link provided:

www.countrywideparking.co.uk/parking


I don't remember exactly what I had written in the appeal but I had provided them the information from my Justpark account as well as the invoice which showed I had paid for the date/time they issued this notice for. But by mistake I had selected a different car which I sold at least 6 months ago.
 

has there been a response? Yes and I've attached the PDF as advised
 

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days]
No (I've received PCN though)
 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture] (must be received within 14 days from the Incident)

 

please answer the following questions.

 
1 Date of the infringement
what date is on it 17/12/2020
 

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence?
Yes it has picture of my car with the registration number
 
PDF attached

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?]
No
 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

I have appealed and they've advised me to pay because my appeal was unsuccessful


5 Who is the parking company?

Countrywide Parking Management /  countrywideparking.co.uk
 

6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park?

Eton College Dorney Lake, SL4 6FJ


For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.
No
 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

 

If I've missed something or didn't provide some information that's clear please let me know. Thank you.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to CPM PCN - Wrong Reg - Eton College Dorney Lake, SL4 6FJ

did you get a windscreen PCN left on your Car?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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No I didn't get PCN on windscreen. Just received the letter which I've attached earlier.

 

I'm also attaching the screenshot of my justcar account which shows the payment made as well as the invoice.

 

The car I was driving was Honda CR-V whereas the car I selected in the app was Honda Accord so you can see its easy to make such a mistake.

 

This is exactly what I had provided Countrywide Parking Management and if they had any honesty they would had accepted my appeal.

justpark.pdf

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well thats an operator picture on the PCN

not ANPR capture so they should have attached the PCN to the car at the time, and then issue the NTK 29 - 56 days after that , not within 14days.

 

read me

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I expect on their signage there will be something like "you must enter your car reg number  correctly..." which you haven't by your admittance done. However they have not charged you for not entering your reg. number correctly but for  "failure to pay for parking" .

 

As you did pay for your parking their charge is patently incorrect and they had no reason to refuse your appeal. In addition the time they specified, 15.42, should have been the whole parking period from start to finish. If it only lasted for that second, then you would have had at least nine minutes more grace time in which to have left the car park.

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