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CEL ANPR Morrisons Morrisons, Butterfly walk, Camberwell, London, SE5 8RW


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Hi All,

 

Yesterday, 14/12/2020 I received in the post a Parking Charge Notice from Civil Enforcement

 

The circumstances are as follows:

On the day of the said offence , I did buy and enter my Car Reg number in the parking payment machine. I paid £2.00 for 1 hr Parking. At 10.02am. I had the ticket displayed in the car. I have since lost the ticket.  I did not do shopping in Morrisons.  The PCN shows me entering at 10.01 and exiting at 11.37. Admittedly I had overstayed. 

 

The PCN says "Payment not made in accordance with terms displayed on signage" 

 

It appears I received the PCN after 14 days.   My question is should I pay? 

 

I have not replied or appealed to CEL

 

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1 Date of the infringement 26 November 2020
 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]  11/12/2020
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

3 Date received  14/12/2020
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]  N
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?  No
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]  No

 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up  N
 

7 Who is the parking company? Civil Enforcement
 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Morrisons, Butterfly walk, Camberwell, London, SE5 8RW
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to CEL ANPR Morrisons Morrisons, Butterfly walk, Camberwell, London, SE5 8RW

yes as above from homer..

 

but..you've left the pcn number showing.

 

this car park is very well known to us

 

Programmable Search Engine (google.com)

 

there is no such time limit change on parking that has been varied by the council since the original planning was granted anyway and CEL can't change that.

 

until or unless you get a letter of claim

you are safe to ignore everyone.

 

dx

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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