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ITV News have got hold of an email and recording of a phone call between Vennells and Ron Warmington of Second Sight. People in the know are saying it's smoking gun everyone's been looking for.

I love that this has come out the day before she appears at the inquiry. This should be interesting under oath.

WWW.ITV.COM

ITV News has acquired an email and recording of a phone call that suggests the former Post Office boss was aware of issues with the Horizon system...

 

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Vennells evidence starts this morning at 09.45.

Nick Wallis has made an interesting observation in his blog yesterday or today that yesterday's witness, Alwen Lyons, implied that forensic accountants Second Sight weren't doing a good job on their investigation of SPMs' complaints about Horizon.

Nick's theory is that not being good at a job seems to be telling the Post Office things it doesn't want to hear.

And that having been told things they didn't want to hear about the Horizon system, that training was terrible and their investigators and prosecuters weren't good enough, they decided the solution was to sack Second Sight and buy more expensive advice in the hopes of getting an answer they liked.

 

 

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Jason Beer has gone into rottweiler mode, I haven't seen him like this with other witnesses. Vennells seems to have put on an act but it may be slipping. She keeps trying to wriggle and say she wasn't told things and he keeps producing emails or minutes that show she knew. 

She has Mishcon de Reya there but when Sir Wyn read her the blurb about not self-incriminating she said she would answer all the questions. 

Loads of SPMs there, Jo Hamilton is in the front row. I hope they're getting some kind of payback. 

 

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Marina Hyde's take on today at the inquiry.

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

As the former Post Office CEO faced the inquiry and her victims, she said ‘sorry’ a lot. About what? It was never really clear, says Guardian columnist...

 

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Like the poops - sorry its caused herself problems

 and sorry the plebs didnt just shut up and rot in a ditch somewhere

 

Mind you, she'll likely have an eternity free of heating bills eh? - BUT lets get kingdom befores justice in first eh?

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I didn't think as much came out in the media of today's hearing but it's possible she admitted to a cover-up. Journos need to go through their notes. I should think a few people were upset about how the mediation scheme seems to have been set up to pay low or no compensation.

Tomorrow they've abandoning Vennells to the mercy of the SPMs' lawyers for the whole day. That could be worth watching.

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She is getting a roasting Paula belonga jail it may seem

 

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On 22/05/2024 at 13:06, glossyfitz said:

Lots of blubbing from poor old Paula there 😪😆

eye for an eye is whats needed as a minimum

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something to remember from prior links ..

 

"Two years earlier (2013), the inquiry has heard, in the evidence of the Post Office’s then senior in-house lawyer, Chris Aujard, it was Vennells who insisted that prosecutions of subpostmasters continue, despite contrary evidence raised in Second Sight’s interim report.

Susan Crichton, Aujard’s predecessor as general counsel, had resigned after being excluded from a meeting about that report after, she said refusing to “manage or manipulate the [information] in the way that Alice Perkins [former chair of the board] was expecting me to.” In meeting notes about Crichton’s departure, Vennells wrote that the lawyer had “put her integrity as a lawyer above the interests of the business

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Another farce kicking everything into the long grass - as usual for these corporate and political alleged criminals.

Post Office scandal: Police to deploy 80 detectives for criminal inquiry.

Investigation will dig into potential perjury offences and perverting the course of justice by senior leaders and Fujitsu

 

Police have asked government for a special grant of at least £6.75m to fund the operation.

Police will not seek charging decisions, that is send files of evidence to the Crown Prosecution Service, until after the public inquiry into the Post Office scandal concludes, which is expected in autumn 2025.

 

It is expected the CPS will not reach charging decisions until 2026, and the wait for any criminal trials could be even longer.

 

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

Exclusive: Investigation will dig into potential perjury offences and perverting the course of justice by senior leaders and Fujitsu

 

 

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Quite surprising to see this in the Sun on Sunday.

WWW.THESUN.CO.UK

A FORMER Post Office lawyer who refused to appear at the Horizon scandal inquiry has been tracked down by The Sun on Sunday to her £2 million...

 

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37.5 million quid ...

 

"Inquiry Chair Sir Wyn said it was possible her refusal was a criminal offence but that seeking a conviction in her absence and then extradition from Australia would delay the inquiry too long."

Errr WHY?

The inquiry doesn't have to stop while she is prosecuted now does it?

 

Sounds like avoidance via feeble excuses from Wyn there eh?

 

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From the Law Gazette.

Paula Vennells had faith in her lawyers - and threw them under the bus.

WWW.LAWGAZETTE.CO.UK

If we are to believe the former chief executive, she was simply too trusting of her general counsel.

 

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Translated

Most of my lawyers did what I told them to, and said what I wanted them to say, apart from one who “put her integrity as a lawyer above the interests of the business

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Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

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Victims who faced wrongful convictions are to be exonerated the day after Royal Assent is granted.

 

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yes, albeit a lessor one than vennels was gifted with for:

* Some alleged unknown services to charity and church

* obnoxious things that are coming to light in the service of the PO?/herself?/someone who enabled her seemingly entirely unwarranted and unjustified career?

 

Seems to me his service to justice and the people and nation is vastly superior in all ways to anything venal vennels did

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My mistake, thought he got an obe - but that was what he turned down wasn't it.

I sit corrected :-)

 

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Why have there not been arrests yet? Waiting for the end of an inquiry which seems designed to drag on forever is a feeble excuse

"the Post Office “was constantly sabotaging our efforts” to seek the truth and used claims of legal professional privilege – a type of confidentiality which covers legal documents – “to justify withholding documents from us”.

"Aujard had said the state-owned body “would not hesitate to take legal action against me” under a “draconian” non-disclosure agreement (NDA)"

"Henderson became concerned after reviewing the case file of Jo Hamilton, ..

Henderson said the Post Office’s decision to charge Hamilton did not seem to be supported by its own internal security report, and there was evidence that “potentially exculpatory material” had not been disclosed to her at trial or subsequently. “I regarded this as either professional misconduct or, potentially, criminal conduct,” he said."

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

Ian Henderson, looking into possible miscarriages of justice, said he came to believe he was dealing with ‘a cover-up’

 

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Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

However bad you think things are ..

Could be worse - could be Farage

Has he moved to clacton yet?

 

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