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Egregious part was the PO knew the system was at fault and prosecuted on a falsehood, some of those gaffers should go to jail, but sadly they won't. Just hope they compensate the wrongly convicted Postmaster's. Sadly won't help those who died before they could be cleared.

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They initiated prosecutions in full knowledge the system not the Postmasters was causing spurious discrepancies, the evidence was wrong it amounted virtually to perjury.  The execs should go on trial who were involved and carried on the prosecutions

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Former sub-postmasters have convictions over Horizon IT scandal quashed - Friday 23/4/21crunch day for all the rest,,
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Not before time, the Post Office Executives that condoned and implemented the prosecutions on dodgy evidence from a borked IT system  should go to jail.

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As Duke Nukem from the 1995 game would say " Thas's Gotta Hurt"  Any exec involved in pushing prosecutions in full knowledge Horizon was seriously borked should go to jail.

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Nor me gives a 404

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Microshaft Edge again, wait until the Windows 11 shenanigans start.

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Money doesn't make up for all the ruined lives and collateral damage springing from the scandal, nor comfort those who were not cleared before they died.  The Executives in charge who drove the prosecutions even when it was known Horizon was seriously borked, should go to jail.  Maybe Conspiracy to Pervert The Course of Justice or some such suitable?

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Needs the gaffer's to be prosecuted for various things, pushing prosecutions in full knowledgr Horizon was seriously borked, and unreliable is tantamount to Perverting The Course Of Justice, perjury might also be a charge, and also potential Conspiracy.  Of course it will be a whitewash and the guilty gaffer's slink off with their pensions and golden handshakes untouched.

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Unacceptable shame they can't send the bailiffs in.....

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At last, Senior Post Office officials belonga jail. The evidence used in many if not all the prosecutions of Postmaster's was perjerous, as they knew that Horizon was prima facie borked.

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The wheels are off the wagon, shame the Post office gaffer's won't go to jail nor Blair's cronies who knew.

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Whole situation is disgusting Post office Officials and minister's should be in jail over this travesty, as to wanting Tax, no words.

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Post Office executives who sat on i the evidence are guilty of perverting the course of justice for continuing prosecutions in full knowledge the Horizon was seriously borked.

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Why the police are not knocking on those Politicians and executives doors is beyond me.

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Its a true horror story DX £600K insufficient for the harms caused.

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A All the execs and Ed davey should at least all be questioned under caution by the MET, as to Alan bates and Sue Sercombe, between 2002 and until the Woolshop closed, I used to deliver there when covering holidays for one of the home delivery Couriers I managed, Alan Bates told me all about the PO shenanigans, and it was obvious that Horizon was seriously borked. Aled Job has written a book about an Anglesey Postmaster who wound up in jail

the stamp of innocence by  Aled Gwyn Job its on Amazon apparently

 

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Likely all the Managers at some point must have been involved. Davey was a Minister in charge he should have his collar felt.

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  • honeybee13 changed the title to The sub-postmasters scandal
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Post Office 'Faces £100mn tax bill' and potential insolvency

Warning comes after tax relief was claimed on compensation paid, potentially boosting executive bonuses

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This gets worse by the day Bonuses enhanced, they should be scrapped for now.

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Two articles that deal with one of the causes of the guilty verdicts, presumption that computer data reliable t some links also to external sources, and the Computer Weekly article from Archive.  Looks like the Law Commission and Blair need to be pulled into the frame also.  If S69 PACE had not been repealed Horizon could have been challenged for reliability.

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The Sunday Times yesterday led its front page with a piece about Paula Vennells, declaring: “May government pushed through CBE despite Horizon...

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"Then, you might ask, who was the Post Office chair who accompanied Vennells in their bid to “protect the brand” – the task for which she had probably been appointed. It was none other than former senior civil servant Alice Perkins who served between 2011 and 2015, when 120 sub-postmasters were prosecuted.

It was, of course, a complete coincidence that Alice Perkins was the wife of Jack Straw, the man who had so successfully saved the day back in 1999."

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Can't think of anything the venal Vennells did to deserve a gong TJ.

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That of itself will lead to the conclusion that Fujitsu were regularly as a matter of course accessing accounts to manually alter data.

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They are still trying to stop any police investigation into Vennells and others it may seem. That FT article seems to indicate they still don't accept the damage their borked system has done. Far too many cases for them to be dishonesty.

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Whole thing is criminal TJ so much there that should drag Ministers like Davey and PO execs like Vennells to jail

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Time Vennells was dragged in in a 6am dawn raid for questioning along with other Post Office executives, that evidence shows at least conspiracy to pervert the course of justice as a starter.

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There has to be Ministerial collusion looking at all the evidence so maybe  past Ministers should join Vennells and others in the dock?

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