Solidworks/CJCH - copyright threat germany

[suckerpunch 0]

Not replied to their email ..what usually they do next ?? @dx100uk @cmas

 

do you know any cases where they stopped chasing ?? @cmas in your case they stopped chasing now ?

 

also do you guys know websites where i can check how many litigations it went to in last years?

 

[dx100uk 9,450]

Good

they will

there aren't any cases

 

Dx

[suckerpunch 0]

So you mean they haven't file any cases in respect with Ansys so far ??

Is there any websites I can check for ??

[dx100uk 9,450]

not that we've ever found 

and you aren't in this country anyway!

 

[cmas 1]

Since you are in Germany, there would be a different website you need to find to find court case filings.

 

Stopped chasing going on about 11 weeks now 

[suckerpunch 0]

I have received second letter today with giving warning for legal action if not replied before 15th .. 

 

Can anyone suggest what to do ? @cmas@dx100uk.

I am not sure to what extent they have details available and they have kept ansys guys in CC as well ..

 

My company is in India and i used it on IP address of Germany ..i am not sure what they can do ... @cmas ..

 

But this looks like they are a bit serious about it now ..even my company do not have enough revenues to pay them for license ..

 

Does anyone know in case if I got for settlement how they usually negotiate ..if you don't have money to pay for it what they can do ?

 

I am worried now which direction to go next ..Screenshot_20201209-001407__01__01-converted.pdf

 

 

[cmas 1]

Yea the second demand letter with deadline and threat of legal action is the typical protocol. 

 

Ignore is still probably what you want to do.

But, you should find out what legal data base your country uses to see how many lawsuits they file. 

 

Dassault systems business model is probably just to intimidate you into paying a settlement with out any expensive legal action.

 

But some company's can be very litigious and file many suits. Its best to know thy enemy and see how many cases the dates of each case the evidence presented and the result in each case. The profile of the defendant is a consideration as well. Deepening on the size of your business etc.

 

CJCH is license in the UK, can they even litigate in germany?

 

if u have no money, u have nothing to worry about, they cant sue you for what you dont have.

If you reply to them you acknowledge that you might have enough money that you need to protect.

if they cant verify your company has any money they wont bother filing suit. 

 

Did they send letter to Germany address?

 

[suckerpunch 0]

No they haven't sent any letter to Germany address yet ..

[dx100uk 9,450]

it's a begging letter read it PROPERLY

doesn't say WILL anything

 

stuff and all anyone can do to you..

[suckerpunch 0]

@cmas which website you use to find how many lawsuits were filed by Dassault in US ?? Can you please share 

I am not sure where to get data that how litigious this company is in Germany or in general in europe 

[dx100uk 9,450]

go stop panicking will you

 

there is stuff and all anyone can do..

 

this is getting boring  AM..

[dx100uk 9,450]

had to hide that CMAS

its US of A nothing to do with the OP's problem

please read our rules.

 

[todi 0]

Ashmess,

 

keep calm!

 

I'm from Germany and I also got E-Mails from these solicitors and was in panic, too. They (also their "customer") tried to call me, too... I contacted my solicitor for this case and had no direct contact with the opposite side (no E-Mails, no phone calls).

 

My solicitor said that E-Mails aren't worth anything, but he began to contact the opposite side with denying the accusation of using pirated software. At the end they showed their recordings (list with my MAC-Address, type and version of software, usage time) and my solicitor was denying that again.

 

Finally they threatened with additional legal steps if my solicitor will not call them within a deadline of some days. My solicitor did not call them and said to me, that they can write what they have to say...

 

We've not heard anything since 3 months. My solicitor said, that their proceed is absolutely unprofessional (E-Mails, force the opposite to call them,...). All this was before I found this forum. At the end I had to pay some hundred bucks to my solicitor for nothing. I think it would be smarter to not answer these guys... also cheaper ;-).

 

What I researched:

A logged MAC-Address is worthless, because no MAC-Address is logged by your ISP. They would have your PC physically in front of them to prove any legal or illegal usage of software. This step is in the meantime easier to realize in Germany, because if they have any solid suspicion a judge can order a house search/confiscation of your PC. All your ISP can do is to deliver connection logs with your IP-Addresses.

 

So if ANSYS logged your IP-Address they have to hurry, because logfiles of your ISP are available only for a defined period. This period depends on your ISP - in my case my ISP is logging it for only 5 days. Deinstallation of ANSYS will not be "clean" enough, my recommendation is to set up a fresh OS. A good consideration for scared rabbits is to remove every piece of hardware with a MAC-Address buy new pieces of hardware, so a confiscation of the PC will show no traces... Very scared rabbits are exchanging their hard disk, too ;-).