Minster Bay Watch/gladstones ANPR PCN PAPLOC - Overstay - Heslington Retail Park - York - YO10 5LA

[notodebt]

Morning Caggers.

Hope everybody is safe and well.

 

Ok will try to make this brief as possible ! 

Got an early xmas gift from Minster Bay watch in York while working on a site on a retail park, Vehicle overstayed max period (2 hours) .

 

had a short contract with the NHS delivering and installing IT equipment to one of their offices based on the retail park above one of the retail stores. The signage stated two hours max parking , spoke to receptionist who said he would put me on the exclusion list while I was there.

 

has me entering at 8.12 and exit at 15.00 ( to grab some lunch )  although I was there until 6.30pm at night still working.

in theory 8.12am till 18.30pm

 

To add into the mix the car I was driving was just purchased on the 7th Nov and the charge letter dated 10th Nov again in theory the transfer of ownership was not in my name then , I notice on letter it states we may have obtained your details from DVLA. I actually got the V5 today stating acquired vehicle on 7th Nov

 

in the letter column on left is as follows:

 

Charge notice no *****

Date of contravention - 10/11/2020

Vehicle reg - My current vehicle

Vehicle make - - Current vehicle

Vehicle model - Current vehicle 

Charge value - £100

Date of issue - 20th Nov 

Location - Heslington Retail Park - York - YO10 5LA

 

I have attached a pic of the main body of the letter they are of course offering a discount of £60 ....how jolly nice 

 

best course of action?  

 

1) Tell them I was driver\owner but working for the NHS with proof of site visit and exemption and lay it on thick about being NHS worker?  (although I imagine it won't make a difference) 

 

2) Deny all knowledge as technically I was not the owner at that point and ask them to prove it 

 

3) Totally ignore and wait for the toilet paper...sorry threat o grams?

 

I have now left that contract but still have my NHS badge as proof of employment

 

Thanks

NTD...

NTK.pdf

[brassnecked]

Tell the NHS Office who should have put you on the ignore list for the predator, you have been ticketed is an option, the team will be along with further advice.

 

[FTMDave]

Well certainly ignore Minster Baywatch, they're only interested in £££££ and would never see sense. 

 

You could write to the DVLA and ask who has been accessing your data and when, but I think it likely the car was already registered to you just they hadn't sent the V5 out.

 

As well as ignoring the fleecers, get back to the people who employed you, point out they promised to put you on a white list but obviously didn't do so, and you demand they get the charge cancelled.

 

Watch out that if you drove out and then back in again after 15:00 you're likely to get another one of these.

Edited November 24, 2020 by FTMDave
Typo

[notodebt]

Thanks for the advice so far. FTM Dave you may be correct for I did drive out and return same say.

[FTMDave]

By coincidence I've just come across this thread  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/429374-ukpcs-windscreen-pcn-parking-in-disabled-by-without-bb-scotland/#comments  Have a look at post 22.  This is if you want to go down the DVLA route.  However, as scribbled above, I would imagine that the DVLA had already registered you as owner.

 

I agree with Brassnecked that the solution here is to get on to the people who should have put you on a white list, especially as it's likely you'll get another present from Minster Baywatch.

 

[notodebt]

Ok quick update...I have been unable to speak to the NHS office about being on the white list and asking for ticket to be upheld with MB, everytime I get put through it says mailbox full so can only assume office has not been manned. 

during this time.

 

letter received today to say despite letters sent for lower amount of £60 and a follow up letter for amount of £100 ( never received) no payment has been received and no payment plan in place.

 

Now states notice passed to internal collections team, I assume that means more of the same letters only more strongly worded and threating..ha ha..

 

Need to pay the amount of £155 by the 4/1/2021 ( and I thought the mafia were great at extortion) 

 

If I do not pay full amount or agree a payment plan they will look to refer to litigation dept recommending legal proceedings etc etc.

 

If payment not received by said date it will be passed to an external debt collector.

 

I plan to keep trying the NHS office as it should be manned after the new year.

I will keep this thread updated in the meantime.

 

Any advice most welcome

 

[FTMDave]

The "external debt collector" threat seems serious ...

 

... until you learn that a debt collector can do absolutely nothing, as it's not their debt.  Well they can write a stupid letter I suppose.  That's all.

 

So basically Minster Baywatch are saying that unless you cough up you'll have to ... open an envelope.  Not exactly a grand, apocalyptic threat!

 

Yes, keep on to this NHS office.  I know sweet FA about the NHS, but isn't it organised into trusts or something?  I'm just thinking that if this office is useless you could try going up the chain.

 

 

[Homer67]

You need to get on to the Estates and Facilities manager for the NHS Trust you were contracted with who deals with car parking.

They contract these idiots and they can email them and tel lthem to drop your case.

[notodebt]

Happy new year all.

an update!

 

Spoke to the NHS office who kindly said they would speak to Minster the response was as follows:

 just heard back from the company, and the fine is not from our carpark but from the University.

 

I am really sorry but we are not able to help because it's a different company and Car park.

 

I am baffled now as to how this is related to the University ?

Unless these bays were specifically for University staff yet they are not marked as such and in a retail park miles out of the city centre...

 

On the day I did take a picture of the parking notice (as I dont trust these carparks) , close to the bays and will post up the terms and conditions.

 

See below..

just realised this is Ardpark based in Wetherby.

Why do I have a notice from Minster???

 

 

sign.pdf

[dx100uk]

Fine???

 

Dx

[notodebt]

Fine is the wording received back from the NHS reception. Not sure if they misunderstood what was said to them. I clearly put in an email that is was a parking charge. Still baffled as to why this signage is close to the bay yet Minster have sent me the notice

[dx100uk]

can you put the NTK up as a new PDF and leave the pictures in just hide your reg please.

 

 

[notodebt]

Will do thanks

[notodebt]

Please see attached 

1st notice - revised.pdf

[dx100uk]

simply a zoom of your reg plate with no surrounding features to ID where the photo's were taken?

 

[notodebt]

Of course...

[dx100uk]

show us with a google spy link where you think this was 

and what was the retail unit name under the NHS establishment?

[notodebt]

I can tell you the exact location. Best  and closest location is- Farmfoods store 

TOWER COURT

OAKDALE ROAD

York

YO30 4WL

Parked in first set of bays  directly opposite the main doors of Farmfood. On Google maps you will see a red stairwell just to the right, the NHS office is directly above Farmfoods. We hand to handle kit up those stairs and along the gantry hence parking in the closer bays.

Regis court entrance is along the gantry to the end this is where reception is and where we signed in with names and details etc.Checking on Google maps I can see there is no immediate signage on the walls or nearest lamp posts.

[dx100uk]

so where have they got the details on the NTK from?

was this where you had lunch?

 

 

[notodebt]

Nope! Worked in the carpark for a number of hours , drove down road to grab lunch for 20 mins and drove back to same Bay. So got to bay at 13.00 that day left for 20 mins  around 15.00 I think , returned and worked till 19.00 all in the same day

[dx100uk]

weird they are quoting a totally differing car park then.

 

 

[brassnecked]

Whole thing looks dodgy and potentially trying to mislead then?

[notodebt]

Bit of a blessing surely? Picture of number plate only not actual bay and an incorrect parking area. 

As stated only time I left the original bay was to travel a short distance up the road grab a meal from drive through and stay 20 mins just outside takeaway to eat it.. then returned back to original bay 

[FTMDave]

Minster Baywatch's antics are doing my head in.

 

If I've got this straight, then you worked for the NHS who said they had whitelisted you, at Oakdale Road, YO30 4WL.

 

Minster Baywatch, because they are idiots, have given you a PCN for the same date and time that you were really at YO30 4WL, for a completely different location, YO10 5LA, which is near the university.  They call it "Helsington Retail Park", but from a web search although the post code is real the retail park doesn't seem to even exist!

 

is that right?

[dx100uk]

please post the kml link for exactly where you parked from google earth.

 

dx