EPC Windscreen PCN - Causing An Obstruction - differing locations on PCN-NTK

[soobee]

Hello

I parked in a housing association block of flats which is now largely free parking, since there was never enough spaces for the number of residents.

 

There are designated spaces, but other than that people just park against the opposite wall.

I parked a bit further up in front of another car and received a ticket citing obstruction even though wasn't obstructing anything.

 

I have checked the ticket and the location is about a 7 minute drive away or a 15 minute walk.

The picture does not show me parked in the block just my registration.

Euro Car parks are the operators.

 

Any advice guys

 

Thank you:)

 

[honeybee13]

Hi.

 

Can you let us have the information requested in the forum sticky please? It will help us to start advising you. I'll amend your thread title to show the PPC.

 

 

HB

[soobee]

Hi HoneyBee

 

Where is the sticky?

 

Thanks

[BankFodder]

Well the link to it has been posted in honeybee's post above

[dx100uk]

was this a windscreen ticket or a postal PCN?

please do the sticky and scan to ONE multipage PDF bothsides of anything received to date.

[soobee]

For a windscreen ticket (Notice To Driver) please answer the following questions....

 

1 The date of infringement?

30/09/2020
 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?]

NO

 

has there been a response?

N/A
 

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days]

YES
 

what date is on it

06/10/2020
 

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence?

REGISTRATION ONLY
 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?]

YES
 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances]

N/A
 

5 Who is the parking company?

EURO CAR PARKS
 

6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park?

HOUSING ASSOCIATION BLOCK LONDON

 

20201117_222242 SMALL-converted.pdf

[dx100uk]

we ask specific questions because we need specific answers

location please where you parked 

and details of where they claim you parked

you don't need to play secret squirrel 

 

put them back in the scans too.

you only need to redact your name, address, reg number and any PCN/REF no.s

all the rest can stay in.

...cause at present it looks like you have 2 invoices 1 manual and one ANPR.

 

 

[soobee]

I wasn't sure how much I should reveal, I found the process very challenging . The address was printed as the Amazon building new river avenue n8 7QB 

They said I was parked at Hornsey central health centre. 151 park Road n8 8jd

[dx100uk]

ok well put back the details in the scans please bar what i detail above

those could be very important.

 

 

[soobee]

here

 

soobee.pdf

[dx100uk]

i would suggest these are two different speculative invoices.

 

one is a windscreen PCN from the Amazon block of flats you parked in causing an obstruction on 22:23 11th sept.

 

The NTK is for an ANPR capture of you parking in the Hornsey Health Centre 30th sept for 36mins

 

[soobee]

Hello DX

Yes I see now. When I was looking at the time I assumed it was at night when I received the initial parking ticket. This was a doctors appointment in the morning so assume parking is no longer free.

It's over 2 months since my windscreen ticket but no follow up is this normal?

Thank you for your help.

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

it tells you in our questionnaire link ...read it carefully

[soobee]

Thank you

[soobee]

Given that the mystery of the tickets has been solved, I now need advice whether to appeal to the Euro Car Parks.

 

I called the health centre I parked in, and they informed me they have a new system in place where you need to input your registration. I don't remember doing that but it doesn't mean I didn't. I had a doctors appointment on the day which can be verified by the practice, however, looking at other peoples experiences with ECP they refuse appeals. I have now filled out an ANPR questionnaire. 

Thank you 

 

1 Date of the infringement

30/09/2020
 

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

06/10/2020
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

See previous

 

3 Date received

Don't know
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

Y
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Registration
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

No
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

N/A
 

7 Who is the parking company?

Euro Car Parks

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Hornsey Central Health Centre 151 Park Road N8 8JD
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

BPA
 

[dx100uk]

No you do not ever appeal

 

 

[dx100uk]

images/posts removed
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please do not post jpg picture images directly to a post
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read upload and redact in jpg then convert using on of the listed websites there to convert to one multipage pdf only

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that way only logged-in,registered and approved caggers are the only ones that can download and see them
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else anyone can see them caggers or not.

dx

[FTMDave]

dx is spot on - best to keep the fleecers guessing.

 

In any case begging letter from paper tigers - sit back, relax, put your feet up - and ignore.

[brassnecked]

Just for clarity DCBL try to make out they have magic powers as they put Bailiffs in their letterhead, yes they are the Can't Pay mob, but here they are merely a toothless DCA that can ask, and demand, but do diddly squat to force any payment, beyond trying to scare a payment out of someone.

[soobee]

Thanks everyone for your advice.