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After a recent visit to my elderly parents in London to take them food as father immobilised by a back injury and my mother suffering from Alzheimer's 

 

I returned home after a few days and subsequently received a parking ticket in the post. 

The post stated that I had tried to drive away as a PCN was being prepared. 

This was supposed to have taken place at 4.30pm.


At the time I was half a mile away sitting in a pub. 

My Covid app shows I checked in here at 3.15pm. 

I paid the bill when I left and the bank tell me this was at 5.17pm.   

 

I am trying to get the bank to give me written proof that this was the time I used the card but this is proving problematic as local branch closed because of the lockdown


I did not go near the car, or try to drive it away.

It stayed in the same spot for the whole period I visited my parents. 

I renewed the manual tickets scrupulously on time and there was a valid ticket in the car at the time stated.

I cant express how unbelievably angry I am over this, as this is a blatant attempt to defraud me of forty quid or possibly more. 

 

From reading around various advice sites it would seem that parking tribunals always give councils the benefit of the doubt as they assume parking attendants don't lie.

 

There is zero evidence from the council that this happened,

no photos of car or permit,

and never can be as the events they describe did not happen.


What is the best way for me to challenge this effectively? 

Any help greatly appreciated

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19 minutes ago, Lasteph said:

I renewed the manual tickets scrupulously on time and there was a valid ticket in the car at the time stated

 

then how can they issue a PCN or know it might have or not existed or expired?

unless there is a time limit upon parking and returning within so many hours?

 

something is not right here with the story or their actions

 

what code is on the PCN?

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Code 19S parked in shared use bay with invalid permit.

The permit was not invalid.

 

The notice goes onto say that the officer was in process of preparing a PCN, but the car was driven away from place it was stationary before CEO could attach the PCN. The car was supposedly observed at 4.30pm so presumably the alleged driving away took place at this time.

At 4.30 pm I was sitting in a pub half a mile away. This was between 3.15 and 5.30.  So how could I have leapt into the car and driven it away  

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well the covid app is good enough for proof of where the vehicle was at the time of the incident.

 

i'm not 100% up on council PCN's but it says invalid permit, not one didn't exist, so what reasons could exist for it to be invalid?

ticket from the wrong machine or as i said a return within stipulated hours or exceeded allowed hours within a certain period...

just musing.

 

however can't see how an appeal can fail when covid app and poss thus google tracking or apple tracking equiv will prove different.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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There was no reason stated as to why ticket invalid.   

This is a scratchcard. You scratch out the time and date etc. 

 

There were no specifics as to why this was invalid.

There are no photos of this with the PCN.

The car was stationary in the place they said it was.

 

If a CEO says I drove off while PCN being prepared

does this mean they don't have to provide any photographic evidence?

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i notice several of our PCN experts have looked but not commented..

please reply

 

this is outside of my knowledge somewhat.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Make an informal challenge on the grounds that the contravention did not occur.

 

Explain that you were visiting your parents from  xxxx(date) till xxxx (date) and clearly displayed a valid visitors permit each day, therefore your vehicle was  not in contravention.  In addition, between those two dates your vehicle was not moved at all , neither was the vehicle driven away at the time of the alleged contravention.

 

Since the vehicle was present at all times between xxx and xxx, the CEO would not have been prevented from serving a Regulation 9 PCN and therefore by  serving Regulation 10 PCN the council has committed procedural impropiety.

 

Please confirm that the PCN has been cancelled.

 

(Reg 9 PCN is served on  the vehicle or handed to the driver. Reg 10 PCN is one sevred by post)

 

 

 

 

 

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