Error on NIP

[marke32]

Hi 

 

I recently got a new job having lost mine during corona virus. I have been driving into a Bradford which I've never done and can honestly says it's chaos.

 

although I thought I was being really careful, but I've received a speeding ticket for doing 38mph but on the NIP it doesn't actually say what the speed limit on that rd is. 

 

Could I contest this? 

 

[Man in the middle]

You cannot contest a NIP - it is merely a notice informing you that you may be prosecuted. If you're thinking you may have a defence to a speeding allegation, you have not. The NIP must provide you with "...the nature of the alleged offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been committed" (Road Traffic Offenders' Act, 1988, S1). No detail is required.

 

You should be offered a course for that speed (assuming the limit was 30mph) provided you have not done one for an offence which occurred in the three years prior to this one. If that is not offered or you don't fancy it then the alternative is a Fixed Penalty of £100 and three points. Make sure you complete and return the Section 172 request naming yourself as driver within the 28 days allowed. Failure to do do will see a court appearance, a hefty fine, six points and an endorsement code (MS90) which will see insurance grief for five years.

 

Do you have any reason to believe the limit was anything other than 30mph?

Edited October 2, 2020 by Man in the middle

[honeybee13]

marke, I've removed your image because you left your car reg on it. Could you redact it and repost it as a pdf please? That lets us zoom in if we need to and means that only members of this forum can see the image.

 

HB

[marke32]

Hi Honeybee yes of course. 

 

Yes I have reason to believe that. Simply because the rd speeds change regularly from 30mph to 40mph and back 

 

 

[Man in the middle]

Have you checked to see what the prevailing limit is?

[marke32]

No I only got the ticket yesterday. But I am unable to drive that way now from work as they've implemented a one way system. I can drive in that way which I did this morning. I had Google maps on and no such Rd name came up. 

[Man in the middle]

Could you say precisely what is shown on the NIP as the location.

[marke32]

B1644 Whetley Hill, Bradford (bidirectional) near Lincoln rd. 

[Manxman in exile]

Does the NIP say you were travelling on a "restricted road"?

 

If it does, the limit is 30 mph.  The limit won't be signed either.  (A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that A roads and dual carriageways in cities must be 40 mph.  If there are no signs it's almost certainly a 30)

[dx100uk]

the spacing of the street lights gives it away on google nosy neighbour.. obv 30mph.

Any road that has street lights every 200 yards or less is classed as a 30mph zone unless there are signs saying otherwise.

[marke32]

no it doest say anything about a restricted road. I thought because the nip didn't say what the speed limit was. It might make it void. Thanks for all your help 

[dx100uk]

nope not a chance of that

 

lincoln road Junctions onto the B1644 at Whetley Hill,

 

the reason why they said lincoln rd is to clearly identify you were within a restricted zone as per the street lights.

and sorry i must say looking on goggle earth it is clearly obv it is a 30MPH zone by the lights.

 

well you won't do that again in a hurry!