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you can nick things from here ...its free and in the open for that very reason...to be able to help people

i was just pointing to it being funny you nick bits then register for help here afterwards..bit irish that one.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Okay, got it.

I didn't think anyone would respond in time or at least for a week because of my experiences elsewhere,

 

the only reason I registered last night was because I checked and found that you made a post late in the night when I was reading through everything

 

I had just filed defence because a letter from Lowell said they would give me a CCJ after the 23rd,

I was shocked as most other sites are not active or refer you all over the place.

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Lowell will misrepresent the procedure and intimate they will get the CCJ  regardless.to make you wet yourself and beg them for a payment arrangement. If it does get to Witness Statement stage, the claimform came before the letter can be introduced there.

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55 minutes ago, MrLegal2020 said:

Okay, got it.

I didn't think anyone would respond in time or at least for a week because of my experiences elsewhere,

 

the only reason I registered last night was because I checked and found that you made a post late in the night when I was reading through everything

 

I had just filed defence because a letter from Lowell said they would give me a CCJ after the 23rd,

I was shocked as most other sites are not active or refer you all over the place.

 

forget the rest

come to the best...theconsumeractiongroup.co.uk

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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dx, you're not lying.

 

brass, another organisation send me some information about the "Claim Form" being sent before the "Notice of Claim Issue" letter via live chat but they cut off and I lost most of the information.

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I have already posted the legal consequences of not complying with PAP in my post #17 

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what bit can't you follow or are having issues with?

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Claim number on the claim form.

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

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why not simple copy the text from the post there rather than editing a PDF

 

you are quite safe with a pathetic Mobile debt to send the CPR as it in my link

lowell dont respond anyway.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Right, I was just looking over both letters and realised they are slightly different, I have used your version, it was just a bit confusing. Cheers.

 

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you mean you clicked on CRR 31:14 not the link underneath...

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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