Highview ANPR PCN - livingston parkway - scotland

[Hijacked]

Hi can I ask about these letters received from this company...

I have received information from friends who ignore them 

 

I am worried I just received a letter after parking in Livingston centre one week night (31/8).

I did not notice any sign stating limited time. 

 

They are looking for £50.

I don't want any hassles but does this legally stand in Scotland and also its took 21 days for the letter to arrive (22/9)

Any advice would be appreciated 

Thanks in advance 

 

[FTMDave]

(Moved to the Private Land Parking Enforcement forum).

 

The fact you're in Scotland definitely helps.  In England due to the POFA 2012 they can, under certain circumstances, peruse the keeper of the vehicle.  In Scotland they can only go after the driver - and they don't know who that is! 

[BankFodder]

Yes, don't respond until my site team colleague @dx100uk comes along. I expect that he will tell you not to appeal. Do nothing to disclose who the driver is and maybe as you are in Scotland, make no contact at all – although normally we would not recommend ignoring.

[Hijacked]

OK thanks will hold on for now 

[dx100uk]

pofa does not apply in scotland

there is no such thing as trespass in scotland.

 

safe to ignore until or unless you get a letter of claim under the pre action protocol (which also doesn't apply to scotland!!)

but ofcourse highview and their powerless dca's will try and make you think otherwise..

 

so we have the info for others too

can you complete the relevant section of this link.

 

and also scan to ONE multipage PDF ONLY

all the letters to date BOTHSIDES TOO>

 

 

 

[Hijacked]

Hi still don't know what's the best plan with this situation.... I'm torn to pay as don't want hassles 

Sent copy letter in email but not heard back 

[dx100uk]

what letters are you sending via email and to whom?

we never said do that ever esp in scotland

did you not read my last post?

 

 

 

 

[Hijacked]

Yeah of course I did there was a link on your last post have 'you received a parking ticket'

So will this go away??? 

[dx100uk]

that was for you to post said info back here by answering the questions that the link wanted?
so you sent that to whom?

[Hijacked]

Sent to consumer action group 

[honeybee13]

Do you mean you sent it to our admin address? Normally you would post the answers onto your thread.

 

HB

[Hijacked]

Well I never did this before couldn't add them so sent to email 

 

[dx100uk]

copy and paste those questions in a reply here

 

add the answers to the end of each question

 

hit reply bottom right

[FTMDave]

54 minutes ago, Hijacked said:

Hi still don't know what's the best plan with this situation.... I'm torn to pay as don't want hassles

These conmen have got your address from the DVLA and over the months will send letters threatening you with being hung, drawn & quartered (and then get DCAs to threaten that your family members will be sold into slavery).  Up to you, but unless they take you to court it's all hot air from paper tigers. 

[Hijacked]

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

(must be received within 14 days from the Incident)

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement

Give answer here 31/8/20
 

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

Give answer here 14/9/20
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

3 Date received

Give answer here. 22.9.30
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

Give answer here no don't think so 
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Give answer here yes
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

Give answer here no
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

Give answer here
 

7 Who is the parking company?

Give answer here highview parking 

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Give answer here livingston parkway 
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

Give answer here BPA
 

There are two official bodies, the BPA and the IAS. If you are unsure,

please check HERE

 

If you have received any other correspondence, please mention it here

 

copy the windscreen or ANPR section to your thread and answer the questions...

……....

in either case scan up bothsides of any letters/tickets in or appeals made out to ONE MULTIPAGE PDF ONLY

 

NOTES FOR TICKETS ISSUED IN SCOTLAND

 

if the Private PCN is issued for a car park within Scotland

 

you are safe to totally ignore ..but not everything!!

do not respond and tell them who the driver is

better to not respond at all...

 

NEVER EVER ignore a court claim or a letter entitled letter of/before claim/action

 

you are very safe to ignore anything from a DCA or a fake/tame solicitor simply mentioning court 

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

so as post 5 then.

 

dx

 

[Hijacked]

Sorry what 

So you are saying its save to ignore it will go away as in Scotland they will not take it further???? 

 

1 hour ago, FTMDave said:

These conmen have got your address from the DVLA and over the months will send letters threatening you with being hung, drawn & quartered (and then get DCAs to threaten that your family members will be sold into slavery).  Up to you, but unless they take you to court it's all hot air from paper tigers. 

So what if they do take it to court 

 

? 

[dx100uk]

there is no evidence they ever do unless someone makes the big mistake of appealing and shoots themselves in the foot by identifying themselves as the driver, 

 

there is no POFA in scotland..it can't apply under scottish law.

there is no such thing as trespass either - as scotland has a right to roam law,

 

plenty here to read

use our search top right

 

pcn scotland

 

 

[Hijacked]

OK thanks so won't take court action if ignore anything cones through door 

[dx100uk]

On 22/09/2020 at 13:02, dx100uk said:

safe to ignore until or unless you get a letter of claim under the pre action protocol (which also doesn't apply to scotland!!)

but ofcourse highview and their powerless dca's will try and make you think otherwise..

 

 

as i said Back to post 5 which i've repeated above in the quote...

 

dx

 

[Hijacked]

Thanks read a view posts they can't look at camera and see who was in car???? .... Letter says they contacted dvla sent to me as registered keeper and if I wasn't driving am to pass to who was so they have no way to find out who it was and I don't have to disclose 

Many thanks in advance 

[dx100uk]

how do they ever know what you look like anyway...

regardless to where you live...

 

AN ANPR camera is a number plate reader 

[Hijacked]

OK cool thanks just scared never had this before x