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It seems to be anybody's call at the moment. Trump is addressing the nation at some point and has talked about claiming victory early in the counting process.

 

Overnight he tweeted that the Democrats were trying to steal the vote butTwitter put a warning comment onto the tweet

 

There's live coverage on the Beeb.

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Trump says Democrats have tried to disenfranchise his supporters, it's not clear how.

 

He's claimed victory in Georgia and Pennsylvania where they still have large numbers of votes to count.

 

One observer tweeted 'So Trump wants all the ballots to be tallied in Arizona (where he's trailing) but not in Pennsylvania (where he's leading). Completely shameless.'

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32 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

. Completely shameless.

 

He's only just realised this???

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From the Guardian live feed. I know that the media have discussed this scenario and the Guardian has added a proviso:

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No winner has been declared yet

Millions of votes are still to be counted, including in key battleground states

 

 

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Well, lets face it

even his name is synonymous with 'malodorous hot air comprising of faeces and gases that damage the climate and well-being of the world, with sounds that should never be heard in civilised company

 

- yet the uncouth believe should be presented loudly and proudly to all in range

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Well with Trump declaring victory while losing and trying to stop the counting

 

I'm calling for Biden

 

May seem early, and theres always shocks, but its a simple Trump imposed fact that the early votes are being counted last (republican imposed situation) and the early votes were reported as VASTLY in Bidens favour - and Biden is leading with the majority of on the day votes counted and mostly early votes left to count

 

So Bidens lead should stretch out all the way in now (with a couple of red hiccups)

Its why Trumps squeeling about stopping the counting - he knows hes lost.

 

 

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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He seems to want votes stopped where he thinks he's losing, but counting to continue where he thinks he can win. Crazy.

 

Changing the subject, has anyone else had problems understanding the electoral college system? I've finally understood it from a Washington Post explainer, it's taken a while. I don't know if this link will work, but just in case.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/08/24/how-electoral-college-works/?arc404=true

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Trump is done, he’s going to lose Pennsylvania and Georgia. He’s desperate, Biden will be the winner by tomorrow at the latest.

 

Trump can whine all he wants but it’s curtains for him.

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I just do a bit of twitter scrolling. Having lived in Canada a while I used to take a big interest in US politics. I find this site very informative since 2007

 

www.dailykos.com

 

follow Nate Silver, Dave wasserman, Nate Cohn, Harry Enten on Twitter
 

www.fivethirtyeight.com also.

 

Basically he’s bang on to overtake Trump in Pensylvania and win by a large margin. Georgia a very narrow margin.

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Vote counts are going up more than 3- 1 in Bidens favour in most areas now

 

Why do you say that about Az HB?

Biden in lead and lead growing past catching point as far as I can see, although apparently all sorts of chicanery going on from Trump supporters

cocconino and apache counties clinching it for Biden is what I saw

 

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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I've checked again and its still showing as Biden confirmed win

He just needs Nevada where he is leading to win overall - Michigan and Navada is what I based my prediction earlier on

 

Good chance Pennsylvania count result tonight and Biden is catching up fast with late counted early votes.

he was 700,000 behind there yesterday - only 200,000 behind at last figures I saw - reeling him in at 3+ - 1 - with over a million vote counts to go

 

 

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/arizona-election-results-mark-kelly-ousts-marthamcsally-b1582164.html

 

Arizona election results: Mark Kelly ousts incumbent Republican senator Martha McSally

 

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/arizona/

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Looked in more detail at US and they still say too early

Strange

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/arizona-results

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Biden has taken the lead in Georgia, where they've been counting all night.

 

There was a good summary in the Guardian earlier:

 

Joe Biden
Biden needs to win TWO of Arizona, North Carolina, Nevada and Georgia or win Pennsylvania.

 

Donald Trump
Trump needs to win THREE of Arizona, North Carolina, Nevada and Georgia AND win Pennsylvania.

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So ridiculous. Donald must work on his Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Donald, Chill!

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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At some point I could see action being taken against Trump, if he does not moderate his behaviour.  

 

There are senior Republicans who would join in actions to remove Trump from office earlier than would be the case.

 

 

 

 

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news services already have

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/05/tv-news-cut-away-trump-election-lies

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Biden is doing well in Pennsylvania. From the Guardian Live feed at 11.42.

 

First of all, on the count, he says there are about 160,000 uncounted mail ballots in the entire state of Pennsylvania. On average Biden is winning about 75% of that mail vote. Donald Trump leads by 18,000. So, if Biden is on course to get 120,000 of those remaining votes, which would see him win the state.

 

20 Electoral College votes come with winning Pennsylvania.

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yep

and less relevant in the great scheme of things as it is and its quite common for those with less overall votes to win,

on overall votes counted, Biden is nearly 4 million ahead now from just over a million ahead when I called it

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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1 hour ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 

 

There are senior Republicans who would join in actions to remove Trump from office earlier than would be the case.

 

 

 

 

Really? Name one.

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