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Although its very tight, and little is certain in these US elections, looks like odds on for Ossof to increase his narrow lead steadily as the majority of uncounted votes is in the larger democratically leaning counties

 

One thing that is certain - Trump will dispute it.

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One thing that is certain - Trump will dispute it.

 

I'm sure he will. He must be working through all that money he got his supporters to donate to his war chest quite fast.

 

So far I've read that the New York Times and Ossof himself have both said that he's won. I haven't seen it anywhere else so far but the number of votes has went up by a few hundred a bit earlier.

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Apparently they have evacuated Trumps Pet Patsy Boy Pence as he feared for his life at the hands of the Trump supporters revved up by Trump Tweets

 

Some might consider that poetic justice rather than just another injustice.

You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

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just what he wanted from the minute he said he was running for president.

mass uprising.

 

doesn't even tweet saying go home you lot.

 

USA this is your president.....pour more gas on ...pour more gas on...come to my rally ...get covid..listen to me..

 

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The Washington Post is saying Nancy Pelosi asked the National Guard to come in and reinforce the Capitol police.

 

They also said that the Department of Defense, now with a Trump appointee in charge, has refused.

 

 

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Democrat Ossoff now 0.56% ahead and lead apparently growing as expected. Up from 0.42% little more than an hour ago

 

Lets hope it not only remains beyond the 0.5% recount margin .. but continues to grow.

 

By far the majority of remaining votes to be counted seem to be overwhelmingly in democrat voting areas

perhaps as many as 3 (or even 4) to one for Ossoff

- although of course nothing is certain, apart from that trump will tweet his whines and conspiracy lies.

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

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they must be projecting that with more info than I have from NYT (perhaps better breakdowns and understanding of the counties than i can bring to bare)  although it does sure look that way to me and looking more certain by the hour.

 

Seems to be following the Biden results with a last stretch boost of perhaps 3+ to 1 in the (already leading) democrat favour..

 

 

CORRECTION

Just refreshed screen and seen announcement - Democrats have won the senate

YAYYYY

 

 

I do think that is still projected and not avtual numbers - but too tired to sort it out

Bed shortly.

 

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

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Record low: living standards and investment

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0.64% lead so far up from 0.56% about and hour ago - steadily increasing and beyond recount territory

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

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When I started this thread to discuss American politics, I never thought we'd still be talking about the election two months on because of a defeated candidate's inability to accept the result of a fair election.

 

The scenes yesterday were shocking and I'm glad I'm not part of the group trying to decide what to do about the attempted coup. The Republicans have allowed Trump to carry on with all the untruths on a daily basis without saying anything and now thousands of his supporters believe what he's saying. If the political establishment does something now, they could turn him into a martyr.

 

The 25th amendment has been mentioned, to declare Trump unfit for office, if Mike Pence and enough other people support the move.

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By end of this week Trump could be gone. Following yesterday's events Trump has very little support left in Washington. 

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After throwing Pence to the dogs:

"Maggie Haberman Jan. 6, 2021

Trump was telling people today that he was happy Loeffler and Perdue lost, according to a person familiar with the conversations. He said they didn’t defend him enough."

 

Ossoffs' lead increases to 0.8% (35,000+ votes) with votes still coming in. (0.5% is recount limit)

 

"Congress reconvened to certify Joe Biden’s election as president hours after a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol. Live coverage ›"

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/electoral-vote?action=click&module=ELEX_results&pgtype=Interactive&region=ReporterUpdates#after-a-day-of-chaos-congress-certifies-joe-bidens-election-victory

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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Trump has had his little tweeter cut off ...

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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Seem some claims earlier about National Guard. Some apparent clarifications from the NYT:

 

"The decision to mobilize the D.C. National Guard — by Secretary McCarthy and Christopher C. Miller, the acting defense secretary — came as a pro-Trump mob breached the Capitol earlier in the day."

 

"Defense and administration officials said it was Vice President Mike Pence, not President Trump, who approved the order to deploy the D.C. National Guard."

 

"President Trump initially rebuffed and resisted requests to mobilize the National Guard, according to a person with knowledge of the events."

 

"Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told reporters that all 1,100 members of the D.C. National Guard had been mobilized on Wednesday afternoon to support the local police.”

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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That says a lot, doesn't it? Trump wouldn't moblise the National Guard to protect Congress. People have also pointed out how lightly guarded it was compared with the day of the Black Lives Matter demo.

 

This article is thought-provoking about how the US ended up where it is and Rebecca Solnit of the Guardian US staff also suggests that Trump and his supporters want a parallel government.

 

They are building a separate reality and appear to wish for a shadow government to beleaguer and undermine the legitimate one. Today, we’ve seen it in action.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/06/trump-mob-storm-capitol-washington-coup-attempt

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The democrat senate leader Chuck Schumer on the Senate sergeant at arms Mike Stenger after the chaos:

 

“If Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Stenger hasn’t vacated the position, I will fire him as soon as Democrats have a majority in the Senate,”

 

Lets hope Trump stands by Stenger and gives him a job in charge of Trumps personal security ....

 

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You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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And take these guys with him

 

 

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520

 

 

You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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For anyone who's interested, the Military Times has an article on why the Capitol wasn't more heavily guarded and why it took time to get enough National Guardsmen there on Wednesday. Like many articles, it compares how the rioters were treated with how mainly peaceful BLM demonstrators were.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/01/07/this-is-why-the-national-guard-didnt-respond-to-the-attack-on-the-capitol/

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have they arrested the Q-anon 'shaman' ring leader yet?

They know who he is

You know what IS patriotic?

Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

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1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

Sadly a police officer has died from injuries sustained during the attempted coup at the Capitol.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/police-officer-dies-after-pro-trump-mob-attack-on-us-capitol

 

should be launching a culpable homicide murder case...am i know whose name should be on the top that one...

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