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@BazzaS yes you are right. Thank you for appointing it. I am working on writing a letter by myself.

 

Hi guys, I rewrote it. Please feel free to help me better it. @dx100uk @honeybee13 @BazzaS

 

First of all I want to make my most sincere apologies for my action in this case. I have always been a respectful citizen in every country I have lived in until now and I feel extremely shameful of my very poor judgement in this matter. I take full responsibility of my action and accept that I was in wrong.

 

Like I have said to the Tfl police at the day of the accident I am an international student. When the event happened it was only four and half moths that I was in England and foolishly I haven’t informed myself in regard of public transport regulation, like I did thoroughly after. However I want to clearly state this does not want to be an excuse for my offence, since I immediately understood how wrong I was, it only wants to be an explanation of my ignorance on the matter.

 

In addition being an international student in a city like London is not very easy emotionally and economically too. I have a part-time job to maintain myself since my parents, which live in my country of origin, can’t help me much. I came here with the hope of a better future for myself and I cannot believe that I have jeopardised my dream with my stupidity.

 

As an international student under Tier 4 Visa conditions if this matter were to escalate further into court, it would lead to severe penalty from Home Office in my case. A criminal conviction would be devastating and I am afraid I will lose the right to remain further in the country.

 

I am extremely sorry for what I have done and in a sign of goodwill I am attaching to this letter the statement of my bank card and a pay as you go card that I have used after and continue to use to pay for my journeys.

 

Once again I wish to apologise to Tfl service and every member that have been affected of my foolish actions and offer to make immediate payment of the unpaid fare and all the reasonable costs that my actions have caused.

 

Although I would understand if you want to go further in court with my case, I sincerely hope that you will accept my apologies and my offer to an out of court settlement.

 

I would appreciate your consideration and I sincerely hope that you can show some leniency in this matter.

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At least you’ve removed the reference to “Freedom pass” (that because this wasn’t a freedom pass abuse case:  showed it was a “cut n paste”).

hopefully you’ll get advice on ‘polishing’ this, while keeping it “your own words” (which have more chance of success!)

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In your second paragraph you say you've been in the UK for four and a half 'moths'.

 

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nothing about how you've bought tickets/ passes or paid for travel since the incident.

 

far too many repeats of you are a forign student on a visa etc etc 

 

once at the start 

once at the end

 

......upon how a conviction would impact your visa..

 

you also need to outline wHY you resorted to it, being of little financial income that day as parents could no longer support you at the time.

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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hello @dx100uk thank you for your insight.

 

I have stated that I will attach with this letter my bank statements since I have used my bank card for my journeys. Isn't this good?  I don't know how to show it otherwise.

 

I added what you suggested in the paragraph:

 

In addition being a student away from my country in a city like London I found to be not easy at all emotionally and economically too. I have a part-time job to maintain myself since my parents, which live in my country of origin, can’t help me much. Being short of money and away from home tarnished my thoughts and it turned that I took some poor decisions like using someone else’s card that day. I came here with the hope of a better future for myself and I cannot believe that I have jeopardized my dream with my stupidity.

 

hello @honeybee13 thank you I wrote it wrong. It meant to be 'months'

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I guessed that; :) Just thought you might want to correct the typo before you send the letter.

 

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 @honeybee13 yeah 😅 thank you. 

Can I ask you your personal thought about the letter?

Do I have any chances in your opinion to gain an OOC?

 

I don't mind to pay any amount of money, I mean reasonable amount of money. 

I am happy to offer them all my savings only to not get the record.

 

Should I offer them a sum or it will be worse?

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I don't have a lot to add to what dx said about your letter. It's important not to waffle and repeat yourself.

 

Rather than offer a specific amount, we normally suggest you ask if they would allow you to pay them what you owe plus their reasonable admin expenses, something like that.

 

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@honeybee13I understand. should I cut any paragraph?

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Can you post up the current version of what you plan to send please, once you've made the amendments dx suggested and added the paragraph you mentioned above?

 

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@honeybee13 @dx100uk this I what i have now.

 

Dear Sir,

I write regarding the letter that I have received from you and concerning the occasion on when I was reported for travelling on your bus service on 17th January 2020 in Pembridge Road/ Kensington Park Road using another person not transferable zip card.

 

First of all I want to make my most sincere apologies for my action in this case. I have always been a respectful citizen in every country I have lived in until now and I feel extremely shameful of my very poor judgment in this matter. I take full responsibility of my action and accept that I was in wrong.

 

Like I have said to the Tfl police at the day of the accident I am an international student. When the event happened it was only four and half months that I was in England and foolishly I haven’t informed myself in regard of public transport regulation, like I did thoroughly after. However I want to clearly state this does not want to be an excuse for my offence, since I immediately understood how wrong I was, it only wants to be an explanation of my ignorance on the matter.

 

I found that studying in London is not easy at all emotionally and economically too. I have a part-time job to maintain myself since my parents, which live in my country of origin, can’t help me much. Being short of money and away from home tarnished my thoughts and it turned that I took some poor decisions like using someone else’s card that day. I came here with the hope of a better future for myself and I cannot believe that I have jeopardized my dream with my stupidity, thus a criminal conviction will lead to a severe penalty on my visa.

 

I am extremely sorry for what I have done and in a sign of my goodwill and that I have learned this important lesson I am attaching to this letter a pay as you go card and the statements of my bank card that I have used after and continue to use to pay for my journeys.

 

Once again I wish to apologize to Tfl service and every member that have been affected of my foolish actions and offer to make immediate payment of the unpaid fare and all the reasonable costs that my actions have caused.

 

Although I would understand if you want to go further in court with my case, I sincerely hope that you will accept my apologies and my offer to an out of court settlement.

 

I would appreciate your consideration and I sincerely hope that you can show some leniency in this matter.

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like i said ..

firstly

once again

although i would

 

drop those ..

 

you need to start the letter with an honest apology, dont waffle about what you've been like elsewhere in the world..not important.

 

is perfect>>>I feel extremely shameful of my very poor judgment in this matter. I take full responsibility of my action and accept that I was in wrong.

 

twist around your explanation to benefit your situation and more reflect the truth.

 

i came to the UK in september 2019 to study for xxxxx.

Until the time of the incident my parents has been supporting me from abroad but in january this support stoppedas they hit hard times and my part time job was not enough to support me

 

i was very naive about you UK regulations 

 

give am an hour i'll do it for you

 

 

 

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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@dx100uk thank you very much. It will be a huge help.

 

Hi @dx100uk keep disturbing you but I really would appreciate your help with my letter. I’m trying to change it again but I’m starting to panic. Nothing that I write feels right. Please can you help me to paraphrase the paragraphs, I’m feeling desperate. Thank you.

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sorry been busy....

IF they were to look at the pattern of use of the card in the weeks before you got stopped

would they see a pattern of A<>B travel each day at the same ish time each weekday, or was your travel/use of the card sporadic?

 

dx

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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 @dx100uk  I have used it to go to university and work. so yeah they would see the same time. 

 

@dx100uk and sorry again to keep bothering. Thank you for your help 

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can you scan up the original letter from TfL and the SJP Court letter please to ONE multipage PDF ONLY

read our upload guide carefully 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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@dx100uk now that I am thinking the day they stopped me It wasn't the same rout I used to take. And I have used my bank card to pay for my  journies even those weeks. I am looking at my bank statements that days before I have used various time my bank card for my journeys too

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scans please too.


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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@dx100ukthis are the letters 

tfl.pdf

Edited by Brea

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i read them , there is no mention of anything prior

so they obviously think they don't have enough proof the other journeys were you.

 

i'll get around to a letter later tonight for posting tomorrow.

 

as for the court form

plead guilty and state you wish to attend to show your genuine remorse personally to the judge, 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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@dx100uk thank you very much .

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Dear Sir,

 

I urgently write to you upon the matter concerning when I was reported for travelling on a bus service on 17th January 2020 in Pembridge Road/Kensington Park Road with another persons not transferable zip card that i was not entitled to use. case Ref XXXX.

I have now received a single justice procedure notice with a a time limit of 21 days to state my plea.

 

Having sought suitable advice, it has come to my attention that my short reply to you on the return form of your letter dated xxxx was somewhat innocent and may have appeared rather flippant upon my behalf.

 

Please excuse these actions, at the time of the incident i had only resided in the UK for a very short period and it was not until i sought recent advice, i became completely aware of how the travel system and laws operate in this country and how serious my actions then were. I have always been a respectful citizen in every country I have lived in and I feel so extremely shameful of my very poor judgment in this matter now and how i have conducted myself since.

 

I came to the UK shortly before September to study at university to further my life and career. My parents proudly funded my education from abroad and i attained a part time job and was happily enjoying my development.  Following a difficult Christmas period for my parents, they were suddenly no long able to financially support me from afar and with only a part time job, my finances soon dwindled.

 

During this period i was helping close family to occasionally escort my younger cousin to and from school for safety. i innocently though they had purchased her card and wrongly believed i could use that to travel by myself as it was already a paid pass. Please don't take it away as they have told me you will and are displeased with me now too.
 
i was stopped by your inspector and I expressed such in my short statement i had no idea i had done or was doing wrong. This does not excuse my offence, since I immediately understood how wrong I was, it only was an explanation of my ignorance on the matter as i have said. I cannot believe that I have jeopardized my dream with my stupidity, thus a criminal conviction will lead to a severe penalty on my visa. 

 

I am extremely sorry for what I have done and the trouble i have put your staff through. Prior and since the event have i used my Bank Card and pay as you go cards, i attach the statements of my bank card that I have used after and continue to use to pay for my journeys.

 

 Once again I wish to apologize to Tfl service and every staff member that has been inconvenienced by my foolish actions and offer to make payment of the unpaid fare and all reasonable admin costs that my actions have caused to avoid at all costs a court conviction, as this will destroy my future as i will not be able to get a visa with a court conviction nor be allow to continue at university and this will disgrace me to my family, i plead to you to offer me an out of court settlement.
 

Although I would completely understand if you wanted to go further and press at court with my case, I sincerely hope that you will accept my apologies in your consideration and show some leniency in this matter.

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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@dx100uk I don't know how to thank you. Really thank you very much. 

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couple of silly mistakes in the text now corrected above

 

 

 


please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

if everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's tomorrow

the biggest financial industry in the UK, DCA;s would collapse overnight.

 

 

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