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Don't take holiday; but won't pay or carry over.

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 I would book the holiday as either a block or as single days spread out over 2 months.

The Working time regs say you only have to give 2 dasy notice for a day off so if your mass bookings get cancelled then you just book them again  giving the required notice.

You should raise a grievance if yu get them cancelled because you have an entitlement to take your paid leave and if they keep refusing you then you may seek redress at an ET.

the higher management wont like either the every other day off for 2 months or being dragged thriough a court because soem junior manager wants to look tough

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you ask him to tell you when you can take the holidays. If the answer is never, you ask him to put that in writing.


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This is where being in a union helps. 

 

Start putting requests in writing. 


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Hi there

 

Does your company have an Annual Leave Policy/Employee Handbook?  Is there mention of Annual Leave in your Contract of Employment?

 

I only ask because, typically most employers do allow for carry over. 

 

How much leave have you taken so far? Although he can refuse your request/s he cannot refuse to let you take your minimum leave entitlement.  Minimum leave as defined in the Working Time Regulations is "Most workers who work a 5-day week must receive at least 28 days' paid annual leave a year"

 

Has Covid had anything to do with the amount of annual leave you havent' taken?  New legislation was brought in earlier this year, here is the link:

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rules-on-carrying-over-annual-leave-to-be-relaxed-to-support-key-industries-during-covid-19

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I have not had any experience with Unions, however it is my understanding that the minute you sign up you are covered and therefore can ask for help on any topic.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with you re "goodwill".  This is very short sighted of the company and to treat people this way irrespective of Covid is just rotten.

 

You might want to put a call into ACAS, they are a free service and will talk through your predicament and give you some tangible advice on your rights etc.  

 

https://www.acas.org.uk/contact

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Hi.

 

It seems to me that you're doing this negotiating verbally and as someone suggested earlier, it would be better in writing so you have a paper trail.

 

In terms of joining a union, no they may not help this time but if you've been with the company for five years then presumably you want to stay there it could help next time.

 

Have you spoken to your driver colleagues about the problem? You may not be the only one who's affected.

 

HB


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read the Working time regulations for paid holiday.

Younhave to put your request in writing and you have to gibe a minimum amount of notice. If your boss refuses your request they ahve to do so in a set time and they ahve to say why, also in writing.

As this manager is not the head of the company you can use the company grievance procedure if and when he refuses to allow you to take your leave and especially of he wont put the reasons down in writing ( that is the law so he has to).

paid holiday is set in law, you wont get saced for properly requesting it and if your manager is being a twonk just for the sake of it then they wont be in post for long.

 

get all of your colleagues to follow the correct procedure as well as it sounds as though this chap is flying by his backside rather than enforcing company policy

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you have 25 days remaining. 12 drivers x 5 weeks = 60 weeks, which is more than exist in a year.

 

This rule will never work.

 

 


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