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there is no next step

you send that letter as was written.

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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i don't want to make any more mistakes , as i am not really familiar with legal stuff. and cannot really afford to lose any more money, so i just decided to cough up and take this as a learning experi

Thanks for letting us know, we all make mistakes, so don't be hard on yourself. 

And do not fill in and send back any of their paperwork, I & E etc, that will only make them think they can get you to pay something, just the ericsbrother missive nothing else as said by DX.

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we try to give precise and succint advice so if we wanted you to stand on one leg and say Baa we would have said so.

send the letter drafted for you and nothing else, you are not going to play their game, you are taking control.

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thanks EB, for clear and concise advise.

should i send it by recorded delivery to ensure receipt.

i have been hovering about a little, pondering over the situation

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God no

dont waste money on them

2nd class will do

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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But get a free proof of posting, as it will be deemed delivered after 3 - 5 second class days

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hi peeps,

just thought i would update you all on the current situation.

 

since i wrote the letter as advised by ericsbrother ,  back in may 2019 i have not had any further communication /letter etc.

do you think they have dismissed the charges and dropped the case, as it has been quite a long time now.

or will they still pursue it eventually.

 

many thanks to all who put my mind at ease and helped me out in this situation.

 

 

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Simple simon has 6yrs

so keep or scan everything

often he leaves it a few years

then tries again

 

if you moved dont ever forget to write to all your supposed creditors

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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hi peeps , i'm back again, thought this was over and done with , but unfortuantely  thats not the case.  Just received  a letter with the following info.

 

 

ref:- xxxxxxxx

we write regarding the above matter

"i am disappointed to note that we have not reached an amicable agreement in respect of our "letter before claim" despite our engagement in open correspondence.  As such , in accordance with the pre-action protocol ("for debt claims") clause 8.2 we are giving you 14 days notice of our intention to start court proceedings."

 

the letter is dated  28/02

 

please advise me on next step to take

many thanks

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other than reading like threads 

nothing you can do till you actually get the claimform pack from northants bulk 

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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They don't the court might..

Dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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court send claimforms not claimants.

get reading up 

any PCN claimform thread will do use our search top right

 

 

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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dreaded  court letter has arrived and its from court which is 130 miles away from me and about 2-3 hours drive .

 

panic has struck in

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Hi.

 

No need to panic, let's take this slowly. :)  Is there a court nearer to you? You may be able to get it changed, it sounds as if something got missed on the paperwork.

 

HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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so you didn't get reading up as post 67 advised 3mts ago?

 

the claim, should they run in all the way...gets transferred to your local court..

 

please complete this:

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Name of the Claimant :   

 

 vehicle control services limited

2 europa court 

sheffield business park

sheffield 

s9 1xe

 

 

Claimants Solicitors: (if one is stated)

 

Date of issue –  28th may 2020

 

Date for AOS - 15th june 2020

 

Date to submit Defence - 29th june 2020

 

 

What is the claim for  

 

The claim is for a breach of contract for breaching the terms and conditions set on private land.

 

The defendants vehicle xxxxxxx, was identified in the Berkeley centre pay & display on the xx/xx/xxxx in breach of the advertised terms and conditions; namely parked without payment of the parking tariff for the vehicle registration mark of the vehicle on site.

 

At all material times the defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver. 

 

The terms and conditions upon entering the private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent locations. 

 

The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct. 

 

The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the consequences of failure to comply, namely a parking charge notice will be issued, and the defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability.

 

The claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest.

 

What is the value of the claim?

 

£160 + £25 court fees =  £185 total

 

The claimant beleives that the facts stated in this claim form are true and i am duly authorised by the claimant to sign this statement

signed   jake burgess  (claimant)

 

my concern is that if i lose case, it will  be logged on credit file

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  • dx100uk changed the title to VCS ANPR PCN claimform - berkeley precinct sheffield

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked.
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.

 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]

 

……………...

 

lots of vcs berekeley claimform threads here

use our search top right.

 

get reading up.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Usual VCS roboclaim, "At all material times the defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver. " can only one or the other.

The only way you get a hit on the credit file is

1: you don't defend Simple gets a default and you don't pay within 28 days

2: You defend and lose and don't pay within 28 days of judgment.

 

Now he usually messes up, so plenty to trip him up, also if the original sum was £100, and he cannot prove who driver is so sues Keeper as keeper, he cannot add anything to the claim, so the extra £60 is invalid.

The team will help you read up on some VCS threads and you will see a 3 line defence initially will be sufficient for now.

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On 02/06/2020 at 13:35, dx100uk said:

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.
.
 register as an individual
 note the long gateway number given
 then log in
.
 select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
.
 then using the details required from the claimform
.
 defend all
 leave jurisdiction unticked.
 click thru to the end
 confirm and exit MCOL.

 get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant]

no need to sign anything
.
you DO NOT await the return of paperwork.
you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count]

 

……………...

 

lots of vcs berekeley claimform threads here

use our search top right.

 

get reading up.

 

 

 

already told you post 74 ^^^

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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