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    • You will be subject to the same laws notice periods and protections as with any length of contract.    From my own and other’s personal experience I would treat it as an amber warning light to start putting out feelers into what’s out there on the market   A 6 month contract is great for people who might be waiting for a new build , or having renovations done on their own property. For someone like yourself who wants security it might well be time for you to consider moving on.
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    • A16 BYN is the plates that the car was advertised with, and obviously the plate which I checked the mot history with, I also thought the same that the website maybe hadn't been updated with the most recent mot that the dealer had got done, I asked for the original plate number whilst doing the logging in to my bank account, to pay both the dealer and the shiply transporter. Bearing in mind I had told the dealer around 6pm that I would get the deposit sorted out when I put my son to bed, that gave him every opportunity to send me any pre contract details etc. Just over an hour later (son still wasn't in bed) asked for the address of where the vehicle was to be picked up from as I couldn't accept the quote for the transporter without that information. Less than an hour after that he whatsapped me asking if I still want to buy the car because he's getting enquiries from other interested parties and is telling them that he's sold the car to me (no deposit  paid as yet). I then replied a few min later having finally got my son to sleep.    Anyway between me sorting out the details and where to pick the car up from, log into my banking to pay deposits etc he'd  messaged me the original plate no... which I didn't see until after I'd done all the aformentioned.    I decided to check the history on that plate as like yourself I had been confused about the mileage, low and behold there was the most recent mot containing 5 advisories which were never mentioned to me. Another thing I can't really understand is the expiry date of the mot before that either and I did query all of this with the dealer, only to be told that cars in Scotland are renowned for corrosion issues...and that if I had checked the mot history I would have seen them, I explained I had checked the history on the plate in the advert as I had no knowledge of what the original plate numbers were and he told me that the most recent mot was under the plate in the advert. Most certainly the mot certificate he then sent me on whatsapp had the advertised plate on the certificate,  however, it wasn't showing up on the dvla page.    By this stage I was irate with him for several reasons, for not notifying me of the advisories and telling me that he had checked the dvla and the most recent mot was showing up on the advertised plates, I then screenshot the page with the expiry and this car is not mot'd information, and 2 for telling me that cars in Scotland are renowned for corrosion issues!    Had he simply said, the car is 18 years old you're going to expect to have some corrosion at some point, I'd have been a bit more tolerant at that stage. Apon checking the history on the original plates, it transpired it passed the last MOT previous to the most recent one on the same day the advertised plates ran out, I still haven't quite fathomed out what is going on regards to this. However the previous mot showed no corrosion issues and as it hadn't failed on that basis, I would get the panel beater sprayer mentioned in an earlier post to have a look at it, and sort the issues out re that, also the main reason I had the car delivered to my dad's address as that's also the area where the panel beaters business is.  
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Yeah I deliberately put that in to be specific as to the letter from Pressdram as opposed to the letter from Arkell to private eye demanding a retraction

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The Arkell v Pressdram reference is weakened by being inside the text. It should be the last sentence of the letter, as was the relevant content in that case!

Thanks EB, yeah that makes a lot of sense what you're saying. They're basically playing a numbers game, for the 1 person who bothers to find out their legal position etc and the ability to fight them,

There has recently been a case on the Parking Forum that will be woeful to the likes of Simon.  Contained within is something useful to you regarding what is parking, and stopping to picck up or drop

the quote of Arkell v Pressdram has been used thousands of times in the last 50 years, it is well known so why on earth do you think it needs explaining in such a way as to lose its effect altogether?

 

When we draft somehting we choose our words carefuly even though it doesnt look that way

 

terms such as unicorn food tax are now common parlance, the parking co's will ahve received many letters referring to their unlawful charges as such and they undersatnd the source material is here. That is what we want, we want them to know that the sender has read up on things and is now fully aware of their unlawful and sometimes criminal ways and isnt afraid to take them on. By changing a well knwon quote you show that you knowledge on such matters is limited and they will then be more likely to chance their arms than not.

 

there is a saying that goes it is better to keep silent and to be thought a fool than to open you mouth and prove it.

 

i also believ that you should smile in adversity as that way no one knows what you are really thinking. My army unarmed combat instructor used to demonstrate the technique becasue by getting the opposition to smile in response gives you the perfect opportunity to then beat the cr*p out of them whilst they are off their guard

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Simple knows his rubbish POC and cut & paste WS have no legs if a nasty enough letter telling him he is a knave and charlatan onto a kicking in court he might well move on to a more compliant victim.

 

Wonder if a letter written in nadsat would confuse him?

 

 

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Ok EB thanks for the comment. Having never had to fight anything legally before, I wasn't aware of A v P and it's common historical usage etc. I did invite comment on my letter before posting it, but didn't receive a reply on the day so went ahead and posted it anyway.

 

Sorry brassnecked, what's "nadsat"?

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The language used in A Clockwork Orange Even better would be Unwinese. a particular form of gobbledegook spoken by the Late prof Stanley Unwin.

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I posted my shirty letter to simple on 29/5 with proof of postage. It's been 5 weeks now, do you think he got the message? 

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Give them time-amoebas are a little short on brain power to work sarcasm out. I wrote a letter similar to yours to Parking Eye and they wrote back to confirm they had received my appeal! 

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like thier court claims, it is a matter of gambling odds. They know their claims are duff but generally the peopel htey chase arent as clued up as those who read  various forums so they will get a number of easy wins and hope that by using the shotgun approach to litigation  they hit more than they miss.

 

It would be sensible of them to stop suing people who are prepared to taken them on and have a good reason to expect to beat them so whetehr they sue or not will depend on a number of factors and that will include previous results and especially widely circulated cases like the Lewes one. they will be waiting to see who drags that up before they issue too many claims where it will play a major part like the airport no stopping cases.

 

They have dozens that are held up in the quagmire at the moment so wont want to be spending money of they are onto a dead cert loser. they have 6 years to try thier luck so may sit on it until a case elsewhere gives them hope. They also lobbied parliament and were told to get lost, they may try that route again

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Thanks EB, yeah that makes a lot of sense what you're saying. They're basically playing a numbers game, for the 1 person who bothers to find out their legal position etc and the ability to fight them, there'll be 10 who simply pay up because they're frightened off by their bullshit etc.

 

I'll go to the end of the line on basic principal of not giving in to these ruthless vultures preying on the general public and their lack of knowledge etc.

 

Thanks a lot folks

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Give them time-amoebas are a little short on brain power to work sarcasm out. I wrote a letter similar to yours to Parking Eye and they wrote back to confirm they had received my appeal! 

Ha ha doesn't surprise me at all, these PPC idiots are simple routine cut-and-paste merchants, and like I said to EB just playing the numbers game because obviously with most folks, sadly, thats enough to keep them going. If everyone took this approach, they'd be out to grass pretty quickly, all of em!

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you are right but they issued 8.4 million tickets last year so nearly a billion quid at stake.

They are trying to get the law changed to create a keeper liability in all cases (inc Scotland, where the law damns them anyway but they still send out tickets) and other things but parliament wants a proper appeals scheme that is independent of the trade associatiosn and also wants minimum stanadards that would put all of the parking co's out of business  as they are at present so dont expect things to be on the statute books in a hurry.

 

Like Huawei, they have politicians in their pockets who will jump up and squeal if their vested interests get threatened too much.

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