SKY Multiroom minibox and copyright infringement.

[shalamar138]

This message is a copy of a reply I sent to Samantha Clark.

 

Hello Samantha,

Thanks for your message.

 

In most cases I have a lot of knowledge about consumer affairs and problems (please see my previous replies to other members). 

 

I do not have a copy of the request for advice as it was not published on your site.

 

As I remember it is about a SKY multiroom minibox that I purchased from Ireland from another seller on ebay that I wanted to use  as an extra to the already subscribed SKY Q main box and already subscribed multiroom subscription that I agreed a contract to.

 

I am a vocal entertainer and well aware of copyright infringement.

 

I cannot understand how SKY can enforce copyright infringement to enforce eBay to take down sellers adverts from selling miniboxes.

 

If the box (spur) is inactive because it cannot connect to a main box and to get the main box you have to subscribe and to be able to connect an extra box then you must subscribe extra to use it as SKY controls this option from their systems.

 

As the minibox cannot connect in any way then how can this be copyright infringement.

 

I now have a minibox that I cannot sell on as SKY has implemented a restriction to stop me from selling it on.

 

I might add that eBay have at the time of the original message had 10 miniboxes for sale/auction and these have not been taken down or removed. aken

 

 I have duplicated this message to the forum for you to pick up.

 

Many thanks

 

 

[BankFodder]

It would be very helpful if you could post your story properly spaced and punctuated.

It's very difficult for people to follow solid blocks of text and it may dissuade some people from giving the help that otherwise you might receive.

[shalamar138]

It is typewritten this way as it is a cut and paste from a text. It is also very explanatory in that others can understand it explaining the term of events and to warn others of the pitfall of buying and selling Sky related devices.

[dx100uk]

Post spaced

[shalamar138]

Thank you

 

As the minibox is a spur and cannot receive programming on its own.

It is rendered useless without a contracted Q box and subscription for multiroom being put in place. 

This then cannot be rendered copyright infringement.

 

The seller of such a box would then be correct to sell the box.

It is the buyer who would infringe copyright without having subscribed to SKY to activate multiroom authorisation. 

 

Many thanks for your help and taking the time to edit my post.

 

I have been around for a long while (a bit long in the tooth) and a bit thick

Do I just leave your correction as it is or do I relist it

 

Thanks again

[honeybee13]

Hi. I'm not sure what you mean about relisting. Your post is still here, it's just had a few paragraphs put into it. 

 

HB

[shalamar138]

Hi HB, I`m new to this site and how it functions. Seeing the reply I thought it was just me who would see the changes. But if it was you who assisted A BIG THANK YOU 

[honeybee13]

Well, dx did the spacing but don't worry about that.   We just need people to see your new thread and reply to you. We'll help you sort this out.

 

HB

[dx100uk]

this situation is a bit like the various other like devices that 'could' be adapted to receive 'free' content that is otherwise not so.

 

what did samantha say to invoke your above reply..

 

 

[shalamar138]

Samantha saw my post on the FB page and advised I might get assistance because I originally paid for the minibox and because of SKY`s intervention means I am stuck with a box (having left SKY) that I cannot sell on. But eBay still listing boxes for others. Hmmm very unfair and discrimatory !   

[dx100uk]

sorry, who says you can't sell it on...?? poppy cockle!

[shalamar138]

This is the response from eBay:-

We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our Enabling infringement policy. Listings or items that encourage or enable copyright or trademark infringement are not allowed

What activity didn't follow the policy

We removed your item as it was reported to us by Sky. Please note that this item is not allowed on our site. Please don't relist this item.For more information please read our help pages or contact Sky directly on: https://business.sky.com/fighting-fraud/ OR [email protected]

 

I also tried another selling website and got the same response

 

Unfortunately we have had to remove your ad "Sky Q Multiroom Minibox" posted in the category "Satellite & Cable Equipment" from the site.

We have reason to believe that your ad is offering an item that infringes on intellectual property (IP) rights.  

It is likely that the IP rights owner has contacted us to alert us to this ad. 
 

there are numerous ads of the same box being sold right now:-

 

WHat is intellectual property (IP) rights.

 

(ads removed - dx)

 

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[dx100uk]

sadly I just think you got targeted.

don't forget ebay is gov't by Luxy EU laws 

 

not much you can do.

 

dx

 

[shalamar138]

I can always ask SKY if they want it back and pay me for it ha ha ha ha ha     As Simon says "JUST KIDDING"!

 

I suppose if anything this entry is going to be a strong advisory to not buy a mini box privately otherwise you will get stuck with it !

 

I had a look for the intellectual property IP rights :-

 

Intellectual property rights are the rights given to persons over the creations of their minds. They usually give the creator an exclusive right over the use of his/her creation for a certain period of time.

 

I would like to thank everyone for their advice and help        

[honeybee13]

Please let us know how it goes and don't worry about coming back with other questions, shalamar.

 

HB

[shalamar138]

Thanks for that HB. As I said before I have assisted others before but just on the FB page and have enjoyed doing this.

 

So you never know I might bump into you some time in the future ha ha ha ha

 

C YA - HB

 

Shalamar138   

[honeybee13]

Don't forget where we are.

 

HB

[shalamar138]

I wont

 

Always ready and waiting