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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Shoplifted asda but paid for goods, over £200


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Hi all,

please could I have some advice as I'm absolutely terrified.

 

I shopped at asda, competing 3x shops in one for my parents and neighbours and myself.

I paid for my shopping and went to walk out, without paying for the other shopping.

 

I was stopped and escorted to a back room.

I apologised and said I had forgotten, they obviously didn't believe me.

I asked if I could pay for the shopping and they agreed.

 

I had to give my name, address, vehicle reg and they took my photo.

I was banned from the store for 3 years.

I was escorted to pay for the shopping which was £350.

Security kept a copy of the receipt.

 

I am terrified they will go to the police.

I can't sleep and feel like I may do something stupid as I can't live with the level of fear that police may show up on my doorstep.

I'm beyond terrified 

 

I dont have any criminal record,

I've never even got a parking fine.

 

Any advice really appreciated.

 

Thank you.

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Firstly, it makes it easier for people if you don't post your story in a solid block of text. It makes it much easier to follow if you present your story in a properly spaced and punctuated form.

Thanks.

In terms of your problem, – don't worry. It sounds as if it's all done and dusted and the police won't be involved. You paid for the goods – you've been banned – nothing else will happen. There is a slight possibility that they might forward your details to one of the loss prevention bounty hunting companies which will then contact you and say that you have to pay some extra money or else they will see you in the civil courts.

If you get a letter like that then let us know. But by and large, you should ignore it. I think you will find that this is the end of the matter.

The police haven't been involved here. You have no criminal record. I'm sure it has been a shock to you – and I'm afraid that this is something that you will have to get over. It will probably help you if you can talk to people who are close to you and who you trust.

I expect that in a few days time you will feel very much calmer.

Please don't hesitate to come back here if you need to discuss things or if you hear anything else.

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Thank you very much and apologies for incorrect format, I'm in such a state of panic I didn't even re read it.

 

I appreciate your post, do you believe that they won't have called the police even though in their eyes I tried to steal £350 of groceries (no alcohol just cat litter, food and normal food)? I paid for it all before leaving. Could I call and ask them this to try to put my mind at rest? I have a diagnosed anxiety condition and PTSD so this is why I am so terrified.

 

Do you know how long this could be hanging over me? Is there a set time before I would have heard from the police I.e. 1 month etc, after which time I definitely won't have them at my door?

 

Thank you again for your comment.

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I'm quite sure the police have been called or else you would have heard about it by now.

Now I don't think you should call them or have any further contact. Put it behind you – but try to make a mental note about paying for your goods properly in future.

As I have said, I think you need to talk to people about it and give yourself some time to calm down – which I'm sure will happen. If you feel very bad about it then go see your doctor.

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Thank you. Yes, I've got an outreach appointment next Tues as my mental health is not good. 

 

Sorry, just one question -

 

Do you know how long this could be hanging over me?

Is there a set time before I would have heard from the police I.e. 1 month etc,

after which time I definitely won't have them at my door?

 

Thank you.

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they don't involve the police at all in these cases.

stop worrying.

 

the only time is serial shoplifters.

 

forget about it

go get on with your life

and keep up the good liaison with outreach, they are are wonder bunch of people;)... 

 

now.. you might get scary letters from a bunch of fleecers called RLP or possibly DWF.

claiming some magical sums for 'civil recourse' 

 

be very aware and DO NOT fall for it...

they talk an absolute load of twaddle in their letters as they are ambulance chasers that sc@m people out of money 

 

if you get one 

comeback here ok?

 

we are well vested in dealing with them..

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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love the username...:pound:

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 19/09/2019 at 11:37, ericsbrother said:

This event is now done and dusted so as you have already contact with mental health services talk the matter over with them.

It is common for people to do things that risk getting caught as they believe they need to be punished, not for the shoplifting per se but for being them and thus worthless etc.

 

try and get someone to talk through your self esteem problems, you dont need punishing for being ill

 

this from your last thread is worthy...

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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