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My son owes council tax and it has been passed on to the baliffs. He rang them a few weeks ago and agreed a payment plan, since then he has lost 90% of his business, he is self employed He is worried the baliffs will turn up. He hasnt got much of an income now, only for food and gas, electric etc.  Can they enforce the order? 

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Does this mean he has now defaulted the plan he negotiated on the phone? if so. Yes they will call. So if you have a car or expensive lawn mower etc. hide them out of the way. Do not at this stage let them in.

 

Has he contacted them to explain the missed payment? If not, he should, not that they will do anything, but it will serve him well when he contacts the authority.

 

We need some more detail please and please name the bailiff and the authority., sum owed. dates of the liability order.


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Thank you for your reply. When he rang them and explained he has lost money with his cleaning business they accepted a payment but the lady did say if the situation got worse to ring again but he wondered if there is any help out there to pay at a later date or anything like that. He is still awaiting any help the chancellor might give to the self employed later this week. 

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to answer your original question

no they can't enforce anything really.

and ofcourse there is no right of forced entry on CTAX.

just don't let them in.

 

it might also prove worthy to contact the relevant council CTAX office directly and explain the situation.

 

they might well hold off everything during the current climate.


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All good advice, definitely move the car away unless it can be locked in a garage, presumably they have already added the £75 Compliance Fee, if they do call they will add another £235 to the bill for an Enforcement Fee, but they have no right of entry. as above what LA and what bailiff firm, some bailiffs are easier to deal with than others.


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The following is not intended to worry you, but instead, to provide advice to the many people who view this forum seeking help.

 

There have been various 'rumours' posted on the net claiming that bailiffs have been instructed by councils not to enforce debts at this present time given the 'virus' outbreak.  This is clearly NOT the case. This position will no doubt change over the coming days.

 

If your son has a vehicle, then it would be wise to make sure that it is not parked on his driveway.  

 

 

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Do you mean "wise to make sure that is not parked on your driveway"


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For clarity, is he in his own property or does he live with you, it would not be wise to park the car on his own or your driveway, as the bailiff will clamp it, they have clamped cars way below the debt value to put pressure to pay.


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4 hours ago, battyman said:

My son owes council tax and it has been passed on to the baliffs. He rang them a few weeks ago and agreed a payment plan, since then he has lost 90% of his business, he is self employed He is worried the baliffs will turn up. He hasnt got much of an income now, only for food and gas, electric etc.  Can they enforce the order? 

 

The council will almost certainly suspend all action in the current climate.

 

He needs to call them. If not he should contact his local councillor.

 


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Worth contacting them for sure.  Until he gets confirmation that things are on hold for duration of crisis, hide car anyway not all councils have suspended bailiffs yet

 

Conwy Council  is still going for Liability orders and bailiffs are knocking on doors


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4 hours ago, dx100uk said:

to answer your original question

no they can't enforce anything really.

and ofcourse there is no right of forced entry on CTAX.

just don't let them in.

 

it might also prove worthy to contact the relevant council CTAX office directly and explain the situation.

 

they might well hold off everything during the current climate.

I dont believe the OP asked about forced entry?

 

Why do you say the bailiff cant enforce anything? Not being argumentative, just wondered if you had spotted something I missed.

 


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I think DX meant that if he can't gain  Peaceful entry, can't clamp a car,  nothing of value to Take Control of, he can only add the Enforcement Fee, the mention of Forced Entry would be to reassure someone in a panic about   a bailiff  possibly kicking down the door and clearing the house.


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The sheriff's office say they will continue to encourage people to pay their debts by phone text and email.


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My local council has put out an announcement that 2020 Council Tax can be deferred until June.


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Council in my area want it as usual, but to contact them if difficulty paying.


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If you look at the scale of job losses and hardship , even taking into account the level of government intervention, I think they won’t have much choice other than to write off / defer this year. That goes for all councils.

 

Also if they did choose to pursue everyone the court system is stalled anyway. It’s the same for mortgage companies. If half the population can’t pay for a year. What are they going to do? Repossess everyone?


 

 


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Conwy Council is daft enough to try.


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I think a lot of councils, landlords, lenders , bailiffs etc haven’t quite come to terms with the gravity of what they are facing.

 

The fact that we are all equally in the same amount of trouble. So everyone is going to need to help everyone else out.


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That is the commonsense view and we should hope the government puts a hold on bailiffs etc, but

of course the bailiff will say they are Key Workers, collecting debt for the Council.


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