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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Hi All

 

I'm a Uber driver with a hired car, I received a fine stating "no stopping" at Gateway House in Manchester, I dropped off a regular customer which I've been using this part of the station for years, I've read that its changed and somehow you are not allowed to use it.  Is there anyway I can avoid paying these people my hard earned money which I need more than them,  any advice will be much appreciated.

 

I have read previous threads but thought it would be better to start a new topic.

 

Thanking you in  advance

 

Regards

MK

 

 

 

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Thank you for creating your own thread, it's the best thing to do. I'm afraid I've had to remove your attachments because you've left in your car registration, a photo with the car reg, the reference number and other information that identifies you.

 

The best thing is to edit them carefully and repost them as a single pdf file to keep this confidential. Our upload guide has details.

 

Best, HB

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And please highlight where the paperwork says FINE please??

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Once you've sorted out the attachments, please could you let us have the information requested in the forum sticky so that we can advise you?

 

 

You'll see quite a few other threads about Gateway House that will be worth following for you.

 

HB

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Here you go

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 18th February 2020

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 3rd March 2020

 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

3 Date received A few days later 

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No

 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up No

 

7 Who is the parking company? UKCPS 

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Gateway Piccadilly Manchester 
 

 

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plenty of ukpcs gateway threads here to follow and read

use our custom google search box on this page

 

bottom line

ignore everything until the  letter of claim.

 

example that answer just about every perceivable question you might have

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ericsbrother is telling you they issued the NTK a day too late to ground Keeper liability, and further as it is a prohibition as in No Stopping, and their invoices rely on Contract Law, no contract for you to pay squat can be legally formed.

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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I've converted your image to PDF so only registered Caggers can view it, best to keep the fleecers guessing.

 

Just ignore the letter - but don't ignore a Letter Before Action if they ever send one.

We could do with some help from you.

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you were told almost a month ago to get reading up.

to date you've not read one other thread relating to this no stopping rubbish??

 

dx

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Will start now but due to current issues I totally forgot 

 

No excuse 

 

Much appreciated 

 

Thank you 

 

Thank you for reminding me 

 

On 02/04/2020 at 14:53, brassnecked said:

 

Ericsbrother is telling you they issued the NTK a day too late to ground Keeper liability, and further as it is a prohibition as in No Stopping, and their invoices rely on Contract Law, no contract for you to pay squat can be legally formed.

So should  I wait for letter before action

 

Thanking you again in advance 

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had to be issued by the 2nd and delivered by the 4th.

So no cigar for them even if they got it to his doormat in time.

 

You now ignore any further correspondence until such time they threaten to take you to court. Keep us informed and try and get some pictures of the road, its markings and the signage there if possible just in case. Many peopel get into a lather because they didnt and when they get sued 2 years later the signs have changed

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Hi everyone 

 

hope all is well during the lockdown 

 

i received the following letter in the post from a recovery firm, please can you kindly advise what I should be doing in this matter.

 

thanking you in advance 

 

regards 

Mk

 

Apologies here is the letter, somehow iPhone wouldn't allow me to attach it

 

Regards

MK

 

DR+ Gateway Picca.pdf

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Hi.

 

I'd say do nothing, but see what the guys think when they're able to get here. Please don't respond unless one of the regulars says to, because doing what DR+ say could cause you additional problems. It's not urgent. :)

 

HB

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and is that a letter before claim...no ....its from a powerless DCA that have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt..

 

please get reading up as already advised or atleast read this thread 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you should have read  enough thread to know that  a begging letter from a toothless DCA is their fist port of call. Note that the  amount asked for has goen up. this addition is called unicorn food tax as it is completely unlawful to add to the amount  on the NTK that was sent out under the conditions they rely on the POFA to create a liability.

You ignore the DCA completely

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It's a formal notice of intention to commence legal proceedings, so you need to reply.

 

We had a spate of these letters in January & February.  All the motorists replied with a snotty letter.  None have been taken to court.  So you need to do the same.

 

Have a look at post 9 at  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/431634-ukcps-2xmnpr-pcn-lbc-no-stopping-manchester-piccadilly-gateway-house/  and post 6 at  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/431431-ukcpscst-2-mnpr-pcns-letter-before-claim-no-stopping-gateway-house-piccadilly/?tab=comments#comment-5093077

 and draft something similar.

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