UKCPS MNPR PCN - Gateway House Piccadilly Manchester

[mkontheroad]

Hi All

 

I'm a Uber driver with a hired car, I received a fine stating "no stopping" at Gateway House in Manchester, I dropped off a regular customer which I've been using this part of the station for years, I've read that its changed and somehow you are not allowed to use it.  Is there anyway I can avoid paying these people my hard earned money which I need more than them,  any advice will be much appreciated.

 

I have read previous threads but thought it would be better to start a new topic.

 

Thanking you in  advance

 

Regards

MK

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Thank you for creating your own thread, it's the best thing to do. I'm afraid I've had to remove your attachments because you've left in your car registration, a photo with the car reg, the reference number and other information that identifies you.

 

The best thing is to edit them carefully and repost them as a single pdf file to keep this confidential. Our upload guide has details.

 

Best, HB

[dx100uk]

And please highlight where the paperwork says FINE please??

[honeybee13]

Once you've sorted out the attachments, please could you let us have the information requested in the forum sticky so that we can advise you?

 

 

You'll see quite a few other threads about Gateway House that will be worth following for you.

 

HB

[mkontheroad]

Thank you for your reply 

 

I've made relevant changes to the image, attached is the correct version.

 

UKCPS PCN.pdf

[honeybee13]

Thank you for the images.

 

Could you post up the information requested in the forum sticky please so the guys can start to advise you?

 

 

 

HB

[mkontheroad]

Here you go

 

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

 

please answer the following questions.

 

1 Date of the infringement 18th February 2020

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 3rd March 2020

 

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

3 Date received A few days later 

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Yes

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No

 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up No

 

7 Who is the parking company? UKCPS 

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

Gateway Piccadilly Manchester 
 

 

[dx100uk]

plenty of ukpcs gateway threads here to follow and read

use our custom google search box on this page

 

bottom line

ignore everything until the  letter of claim.

 

example that answer just about every perceivable question you might have

 

[ericsbrother]

they issued it a day late so no keeper liability even if one could be created. We say bno contract because "no stopping" isnt an offer of terms  for a parking contract

You ignore them

[mkontheroad]

What do you mean please forgive my ignorance 

 

Received this in the post any advice 

 

Thanking you in advance 

UKCPS letter.pdf

[brassnecked]

 

Ericsbrother is telling you they issued the NTK a day too late to ground Keeper liability, and further as it is a prohibition as in No Stopping, and their invoices rely on Contract Law, no contract for you to pay squat can be legally formed.

[FTMDave]

I've converted your image to PDF so only registered Caggers can view it, best to keep the fleecers guessing.

 

Just ignore the letter - but don't ignore a Letter Before Action if they ever send one.

[dx100uk]

you were told almost a month ago to get reading up.

to date you've not read one other thread relating to this no stopping rubbish??

 

dx

 

 

 

[mkontheroad]

Will start now but due to current issues I totally forgot 

 

No excuse 

 

Much appreciated 

 

Thank you 

 

Thank you for reminding me 

 

On 02/04/2020 at 14:53, brassnecked said:

 

Ericsbrother is telling you they issued the NTK a day too late to ground Keeper liability, and further as it is a prohibition as in No Stopping, and their invoices rely on Contract Law, no contract for you to pay squat can be legally formed.

So should  I wait for letter before action

 

Thanking you again in advance 

[honeybee13]

So should  I wait for letter before action

 

Yes.

 

HB

[lookinforinfo]

I may be wrong, but as there are only 29 days in February, the 3rd March just makes it for 14 days.

[ericsbrother]

had to be issued by the 2nd and delivered by the 4th.

So no cigar for them even if they got it to his doormat in time.

 

You now ignore any further correspondence until such time they threaten to take you to court. Keep us informed and try and get some pictures of the road, its markings and the signage there if possible just in case. Many peopel get into a lather because they didnt and when they get sued 2 years later the signs have changed

[mkontheroad]

Hi everyone 

 

hope all is well during the lockdown 

 

i received the following letter in the post from a recovery firm, please can you kindly advise what I should be doing in this matter.

 

thanking you in advance 

 

regards 

Mk

 

Apologies here is the letter, somehow iPhone wouldn't allow me to attach it

 

Regards

MK

 

DR+ Gateway Picca.pdf

[honeybee13]

Hi.

 

I'd say do nothing, but see what the guys think when they're able to get here. Please don't respond unless one of the regulars says to, because doing what DR+ say could cause you additional problems. It's not urgent.

 

HB

[dx100uk]

and is that a letter before claim...no ....its from a powerless DCA that have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt..

 

please get reading up as already advised or atleast read this thread 

 

 

[mkontheroad]

Will do Thank You for your time

[ericsbrother]

you should have read  enough thread to know that  a begging letter from a toothless DCA is their fist port of call. Note that the  amount asked for has goen up. this addition is called unicorn food tax as it is completely unlawful to add to the amount  on the NTK that was sent out under the conditions they rely on the POFA to create a liability.

You ignore the DCA completely

[BankFodder]

Open

[mkontheroad]

Thank you for opening this thread. 
 

received the attached letter a few days ago. 
 

apologies for my ignorance, any advice will be much appreciated.

 

regards 

MK

Document (8).pdf

[FTMDave]

It's a formal notice of intention to commence legal proceedings, so you need to reply.

 

We had a spate of these letters in January & February.  All the motorists replied with a snotty letter.  None have been taken to court.  So you need to do the same.

 

Have a look at post 9 at  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/431634-ukcps-2xmnpr-pcn-lbc-no-stopping-manchester-piccadilly-gateway-house/  and post 6 at  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/431431-ukcpscst-2-mnpr-pcns-letter-before-claim-no-stopping-gateway-house-piccadilly/?tab=comments#comment-5093077

 and draft something similar.