Tfl bus prosecution

[clo1234]

i was given a single justice Procedure for using a travel mandate issued by another person.

I have pleaded guilty and paid the fine.

However it was only later that I realised tfl had never advised me about an out of court settlement.

 

I have read others in my situation settled it out of court.

Was it wrong for tfl for not telling that i could have settled it out of court.

 

I would like to become a children’s nurse however a criminal conviction of this sort may hinder may chances.

Can i still reclaim back the fine i paid and opt for the out of court settlement instead.

 

I feel as if it is not fair at all that tfl have treated me this way it is my rights to know all the outlining options i have and avoid a criminal conviction. 

[dx100uk]

there is no remit that they have to tell you of OOC no.

so there is little you can now do.

 

but if you read the letters that came at the start, they do say that you can try and settle before it goes to court.

so how did you respond to the first letter that asked for your side of the incident...that's the important one, and how important you reply is..

 

dx

 

[clo1234]

When i was first given the letter to appeal I explained to IAP that i did not have my purse with me as I accidentally left it in my locker At work and so did not have any money to pay for a bus fare.

 

As i was in a rush to get to work i took my brothers oyster 11-15yrs which was very stupid of me i know. I sincerely apologised to them and told them i would never do it again. Later I received a single justice procedure notice saying i can either plead guilty or not guilty and turn up in person or not turn up in person.

 

However the bus ticket inspectors stated that i had said I accidentally took my brothers oyster instead of my own ( i did not say this however i have realised now that would have been better to say in my appeal). I did not receive a letter saying this can be settled out of court?? 

 

I pleaded guilty online through the link they mentioned online. There was also a part online where i had to explain my side again but I stupidly left this blank and submitted it.

 

Is it worth getting my case reopened so i can try avoiding a criminal conviction and be able to study at uni for child nursing. I only recently turned 19 and on a gap year. Its really unfair that ive been given a criminal conviction even though this is my first time using someone elses oyster and i am still so young but now this has ruined my future. 

[dx100uk]

Did you not offer to pay in your 1st appeal?

you could have borrowed money to pay the fare.

as you explain it, you purposefully took the card, knowing it was illegal for you to use it.

 

Dx

[honeybee13]

Hi.

 

Could you try to post in paragraphs please? I've sorted your posts so that the people who are trying to help find them easier to read, but it would help if you would help us.

 

I'm afraid I agree with dx about it being too late. I've never seen a case reopened.

 

HB

 

 

 

[clo1234]

i honestly did not know it was illegal for me to use it which i know sounds stupid right now. The most i thought would happen is paying a penalty charge of £40. Not a whole criminal conviction.
 

I couldnt burrow money as there was no one at home to ask. I took my brothers oyster without him knowing.  
 
i also didnt think about mentioning to pay in my first appeal. I was very panicked by the whole situation and didnt have anyone to help me and didnt know who to go to for help. Getting a solicitor is way too expensive. 
 

is there anything i can do right now to amend my mistake and get rid of the criminal conviction. Or have my chances of becoming a child nurse gone down the drain

 

under section 142 of the magistrates court act it mentions i can reopen a case if i missed a stage which was part of the proceedings. Could me not explaining my situation again in the online link be part of that? 

Edited March 15, 2020 by clo1234

[dx100uk]

I will assume you got a fine?

when was this ?

[clo1234]

I was caught on the 21st november.

But i received the letter to pay the fine of £225.50 on February the 18th.

 

I paid the amount immediately as i did not want to think about the situation anymore and thought if i paid the fine i wont have a criminal record.  

[dx100uk]

so why did you not think to search the internet and come here before?
it puzzles me why you've only just done this, and not before.....or indeed any internet based advice..?

 

 

[clo1234]

A lot of the internet based advice i searched did not have the same situation as me or reason. I also did not realise how this would have impacted my ucas application as my course requires an enhanced dbs check. Honestly ive never heard of this website before i only just stumbled across it. 
 

Had i known about all of this before my outcome would have been very different and not so rash and i shoot myself in the foot for that. 
 

however from doing further research i have found out on NMCs (regulator for nursing & midwifery professions in the uk) guidelines that they do not investigate convictions that were an only offence and do not involve members of public or violence etc. I have also emailed the university i would like to study at and told them about this situation and whether they will still accept me. Just awaiting response

[dx100uk]

I was  looking earlier too

And likewise its not related to your proposed career 

You should have no issues.

 

Dx

[clo1234]

Hi just a quick update from me. Ive been accepted onto the children’s nursing course by the university!! 

[honeybee13]

That's great, I'm really pleased for you.

 

Thank you for letting us know.

 

HB