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Stopped in a disabled bay in a shopping complex car park to collect my daughter who was sick and got a ticket that I have ignored.

 

It has now gotten to the point of SCS Law,

attached is their letter.

Is there any way I can get out of paying?
 

 

 

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hi ya

I've removed your hosting link

please put them up as a PDF as part of our  questionnaire:

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Welcome to the Forum.

 

There are lots of ways of avoiding payment and they are all legal.

 

They need to establish that a contract exists between them and motorists that park in the car park. It should be quite easy but most of them fall over a least one of the hurdles in their way. 

 

If you could complete the form on post 2 we can find out where they have gone wrong with the PCN and later we can see where their signage can be disregarded and what permissions they have failed to g.

 

In the meantime please do not write to them as you may lose the protection covered by POFA

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jpg2pdf.pdf

 

1 The date of infringement? 9/6/19

 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? N

 

if you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it,

suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

has there been a response?

please post it up as well, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

If you haven't appealed yet - ,.........DONT ! seek advice on your topic

 

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days]

what date is on it

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence?

[scan up BOTHSIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ( PoFA) No idea

 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? Did not appeal. No idea on anything else.

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances]

 

5 Who is the parking company? UK Parking Control Ltd

 

6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? Thurrock Shopping Park, West Thurrock, Essex, RM20 3LP

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  • FTMDave changed the title to UKPC PCN - parking in disabled bay - Thurrock Shopping Park, West Thurrock

why have you received nothing since june 2019?

have you moved since then ?

 

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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was there a PCN attached to your windscreen upon return to the car?

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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hey ...we'll keep pulling teeth till you tell us the whole story...:pound:

 

and ofcourse you no longer have this either?

 

dx

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Binning wasn't a great idea.  However ...

 

If someone clearly owed me money and wouldn't cough up, I'd take them to court.  I wouldn't faff around getting my next-door neighbour to send a silly letter, and when that failed get my neighbour on the other side to also send a daft letter. 

 

The involvement of Zenith & SCS Law is very positive, they are non-entities who can't do anything as it's not their debt.  UKPC don't seem in a hurry to do court.  You've done excellently so far in ignoring them and successfully "getting out of paying", methinks a good strategy to continue. 

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They have to send a Letter Before Action/Letter Before Claim/Letter Of Claim before they take you to court.

 

If that ever turns up, then please come back here ASAP and we'll help you.

 

While they're just getting rent-a-threats to send you toilet paper, keep on ignoring them.

 

 

We could do with some help from you.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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this latest missive is just more bof paper and safe to ignore but keep it safe for later. Let us know when you get the next letter.

The supposed event is easily batted away as a contractual uissue on several grounds

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  • 9 months later...

not a letter of claim

safe to ignore

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just in case it hasn't been mnetioned, Lakeside is all private property so diabled bays are not part of the blue badge enforcement scheme.

Morally wrong to use them without a blue badge but not illegal.

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As already mentioned, these are not Fines, as Fines are for criminal acts, a breach of a condition real or imagined by a PPC can never be  a Fine, they are invoices, and to enforce payment they have to sue in a civil County Cort, and that isn't as easy as they like to make out, so they rely on threats and bluster, to panic a punter into paying them.

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

 

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The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

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