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    • hi all. bit of advice please. I had a Three contract up until November last year. At £11pcm for 24mths. Paid every month on time via their online portal. When I ported over, I received a letter from Three thanking me for being a customer blah blah blah.. It also said IF I owed anything a final bill will be sent. No final bill ever received - I get a phone call around the first week in December form an Indian sounding man who was extremly difficult to understand. Said he was calling from Three, and wanted me to confirm my details - something of which I didnt as something didnt sit right. He said I could log into my account and review my bill as I owed money and then hung up. After the call I thought I'd best log into my account just in case.  Couldnt log in. Account access denied. Logged on to chat - they said as I ported over and I was no longer a customer my access was suspended. Couple of weeks later I had another call from a local area number and answered again it was some Indian guy telling me I owed money, wanting me to confirm details. I refused and he said details will be sent out to me to my email on account and my home address as it was important. Once again nothing.. 15th Dec I received an email from PastDue in my name RE Three. Email stated they were contacting me about Three an I should receive a letter soon regards to this matter. Says about visiting their website.  22nd Jan another email form Pastdue. Stating they have yet to receive a response to the letter, and they had already sent me an email about this. We will continue to contact you until this matter is resolved. Again asks me to login. 23rd Jan letter received dated 13th Jan. Titled "We are here to help keep your Three Services"  Claiming I owed "Airetime Balance £201.43" and contract period was 26/11/2019 to 25/11/2020 States "We have been appointed by Three to recover the amount of £201.43. If you pay this amount in full Three may be able to waive the cancellation fee and reconnect their service for you" - what cancellation fee / re connection??? I ended the contract giving the 30days notice and paying the last bill.. Then the normal crap about its important to pay. If I'm experiencing difficulties etc. Now both December and  January Credit reports from ClearScore, Credit Karma, Credit Expert, Totally Money and Equifax all show Three as Closed and balance as Zero. (Date Satisfied /closed 17th Nov, bal 0, last updated 30th Nov) I've had nothing from Three. As far as I'm concerned I owe nothing as no final bill and no access to the portal. Should I email PastDue and do a prove it & attach proof of Credit Reports being £0 or do I do something else?  
    • Hi she did say she was cancelling and returned the equipment. It looks like they put her on a rolling contract for 24 months when she phoned before trying to reduce her payments as they kept going up. I know Sky haven't done that to me. She didn't see that email as she's had lots of stressful situations. No.letter in post or when she originally phoned about reducing her bill well over £100 they didn't tell her about this contract. Like you say there should be recordings. BT mobile contract is separate to broadband and the cancellation fee is for the broadband. They have blocked her mobile so she can't use it and that is a contract. She is phoning CAB in the morning and checking through her paperwork. I'm quite happy with Sky as they tell you upfront what is happening and have never rolled over my contract. Thanks for taking time to reply it is much appreciated. 
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    • Hi @BankFodder
      Sorry for only updating you now, but after your guidance with submitting the claim it was pretty straight forward and I didn't want to unnecessarily waste your time. Especially with this guide you wrote here, so many thanks for that
      So I issued the claim on day 15 and they requested more time to respond.
      They took until the last day to respond and denied the claim, unsurprisingly saying my contract was with Packlink and not with them.
       
      I opted for mediation, and it played out very similarly to other people's experiences.
       
      In the first call I outlined my case, and I referred to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 as the reason to why I do in fact have a contract with them. 
       
      In the second call the mediator came back with an offer of the full amount of the phone and postage £146.93, but not the court costs. I said I was not willing to accept this and the mediator came across as a bit irritated that I would not accept this and said I should be flexible. I insisted that the law was on my side and I was willing to take them to court. The mediator went back to Hermes with what I said.
       
      In the third call the mediator said that they would offer the full amount. However, he said that Hermes still thought that I should have taken the case against Packlink instead, and that they would try to recover the court costs themselves from Packlink.
       
      To be fair to them, if Packlink wasn't based in Spain I would've made the claim against them instead. But since they are overseas and the law lets me take action against Hermes directly, it's the best way of trying to recover the money.
       
      So this is a great win. Thank you so much for your help and all of the resources available on this site. It has helped me so much especially as someone who does not know anything about making money claims.
       
      Many thanks, stay safe and have a good Christmas!
       
       
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32 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

As if that wasn't bad enough, TJ, Door Matt is taking personal charge of the Covid vaccine programme. :(

 

Is that some sort of attempt on his part to imply he isnt to blame for all the f*** ups and wasted taxpayer money and lives so far?

He's the health minister the buck on all this stops with him - as Johnson will claim.

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

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OpenDemocracy have used FOI requests to establish that Johnson has set up a secret task force to plan a shake up of the NHS. No public health experts on the task force, but they have the McKinsey consultant who was in involved in the unpopular 2012 Lansley reorganisation that sold of a fair amount of the NHS to the private sector.

 

In mid-pandemic they do this... Clearly Bozo has forgotten how grateful he was to the NHS when they looked after him during his Covid crisis.

 

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/revealed-boris-johnsons-controversial-policy-chief-leading-secretive-nhs-task-force/?utm_source=tw

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'Sell' aka pay serco to do a doodoo job instead of the NHS

and we have seen how competent serco aren't

probably to get Jeremy khunt back on board ... a chunk will go to his businesses

 

One handed clap for the NHS while they stab them in the back with the other.

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

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I'm constantly getting

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Last page I can get appears to be 73, but selectable page list goes up to 78

Its not ignored caggers as I've un-ignored cjcreg to test

 

 

 

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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I don't know, TJ, sorry. I'm not having a problem although that's no comfort to you.

 

The best thing is probably to post in the Questions and Suggestions forum for further comment.

 

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/22-consumer-forums-website-post-your-questions-suggestions-about-this-site/

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Its possibly that the code calculates pages based on all the crap cluttering up the pages - which I got rid of so I could actually read 3 line plus posts without paging ...

 

 

Back on subject, nearly everyone I've spoken with in the last few days, all of whom have supported lock downs and restrictions even though all (and their loved ones) have been negatively impacted by it

Now say Johnson can shove his rules up his backside

 

A variety of reasons but most include

 

He does nothing in all the time that the lockdowns give him and people just come out of lockdowns into worse or at best nothing changed or improved unless its by fluke or summer weather - which is long gone.

 

They all believe that they understand the issues and manage them to keep themselves, their friends and loved ones safe and healthy - including social connections

 

and an interesting common point

That Johnson is just avoiding putting real money into the actual NHS to get things done properly and would rather throw money anywhere else into his pals hands

 

 

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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I see your point, TJ. HMG has frittered away any time it's had given to it in 2020; warnings from Italy when they were about two weeks ahead of the UK and two lockdowns, to source PPE and get a functioning test and trace system in place.

 

Far more people are saying they should just listen to local public health people and organise things locally but of course that doesn't give money to Tory cronies. Local public health people could possibly organise a better tiers system rather than clamp down on entire counties as well.

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A more controversial point is that Johnson has made it illegal to look after your family, requiring you to choose between them.

 

No one I know doubts or questions that people hosting raves and such like should be prosecuted given the situation, just as those gathering for fox hunts and grouse shoots should be,

but effectively making people who are simply trying to safely and sensibly look after their own into criminals while the government pals do whatever they like and are thrown taxpayer money by the BILLION for nothing is obnoxious and abhorrent,

especially when you can go to a restaurant or supermarket or transport hub and be in close contact with hundreds of strangers.

 

 

Oh look - 6 + 1 in close contact from 14+ households and only one wearing a mask - leading by appallingly bad example.

 

 

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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example

You have an aged parent/grandparent, with compromised immune in a separate household

You have children, with children which you help with to school and after school - in separate households all at work none on furlough

Your other half (second partner) has the same

 

Want to count how many 'laws' you are breaking by assisting with grandchildren from 2-4 different households, alongside two aged parents in two separate households

 

Let alone the pair of you then seeing each other

Let alone actually seeing any of your friends ..

Let alone the other members of your family seeing each other

 

... Unless you all go on a fox hunt or grouse shoot that is

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Its a common situation HB

... In how many laws broken how many times - yes somewhat complex

 

In caring and supporting your own its quite simple and straight forward

It enables the younger members to work and school, while giving care to the older members, who have mainly lost their prior anchors

- Nothing strange ... although Johnsons' monsters seem to be unaware or uncaring ...

 

Any in such a situation will of course have ALL their owns health and safety as the paramount consideration.

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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I see Gove is now saying - obey the lockdown or the NHS will be overwhelmed

 

Shame Gove Handcock and Johnson didnt actually properly fund and prepare the NHS in the 6 months they have had with the previous and current lockdowns then?

Nor is there any expectaion, let alone assurances, that they would they in any further lockdown

 

- Everyone expects they will just throw billions more in Taxpayer money at their mates to 'create' shell nightingale hospitals, undelivered or inadequate PPE and call centers with staff watching i'm a celebrity, while people die alone and 'come out' of the lockdown to worse.

 

 

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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As announcements spread regarding additional f***-ups resulting in 1.300 people wrongly told to isolate, and atrociously poor contact levels missing thousands of people who SHOULD be told to isolate ..,

 

LONDON (Reuters) - "The British government announced a 7-billion-pound ($9.3-billion) increase in funding for its COVID-19 testing and contact tracing system"

 

This strategy is backed by an additional 7 billion (pounds) for Handcock and Sercos Test and Trace to increase profits and continue to improve profits,

"taking the overall funding provided for Test and Trace this financial year to £22 billion (pounds)," the government said in its COVID-19 winter plan, published on Monday.

 

 

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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So anyway, Johnson, Gove, Handcock and co have apparently squandered £350 BILLION so far on lockdowns and giving their pals huge wodges of money to not supply quality PPE and trace services - increasing at the rate of around £6 BILLION a week.

Already Very nearly 3x the NHS annual budget

 

So who thinks that simply doubling the NHS and local trace services budget, and saving £200BN would have delivered a more effective response, saved lives, reduced lockdowns, managed and reduced the spread and limited the impact on the economy compared to how Johnson and Handcock (and Sunack) have mismanaged the situation?

 

That not hindsight - its just using the existing services effectively rather than throwing British taxpayer money at cronys and pals for Sweet Fanny Adams

 

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Chris Giles of the FT is tweeting again about his calculation of the excess deaths figure. His conservative estimate is at 80,000, sadly.

 

https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

The actuaries' figure a week ago was 64,900 and I'm not sure why the figures are some way apart this time.

 

https://www.actuaries.org.uk/news-and-insights/news/cmi-s-2020-excess-deaths-estimate-reaches-new-high

 

The ONS are talking about almost 64,000, so nearer to the actuaries' numbers.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26

 

I wonder if some of the discrepancy is over whether Covid is mentioned on the death certificate or not.

 

I'm not finding it easy to locate HMG's figure, I think it's a little under 59,000.

 

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yep somwhere between 75.000 - 80,000 deaths directly related to covid - and thousands more indirectly

 

 

I see Tesco is repaying the business relief. Quite right too

Tesco's repayment of pandemic tax relief puts pressure on rivals

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-tesco-business-rates/tescos-repayment-of-pandemic-tax-relief-puts-pressure-on-rivals-idUKKBN28C0PS

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Oh and cant confirm this, but allegedly ..

Despite clinical NHS staff still struggling to get flu jabs, and non-clinical NHS staff still mostly NOT got them

allegedly SERCO staff all got theirs no problem ..

"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Brexit nothing to do with 'fast' approval of the German/American vaccine

 

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1334156018083901443

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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The reality reported end last month:

 

"Concerns have been raised about the risk of disruption to supplies of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine and added costs after the drugs company shut a cold storage facility in the south of England ahead of the end of the Brexit transition period next month."

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mps-raise-concerns-over-vaccine-supply-after-pfizer-shuts-cold-storage-site-7pv57ztrr

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"In every respect, he has acted responsibly, legally and with integrity"

Boris Johnson on Dominic Cummings' Covid field trips

 

Exactly the same benefits and no one is threatening our place in the single market - Vote Leave

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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28 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

Brexit nothing to do with 'fast' approval of the German/American vaccine

 

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1334156018083901443

 

That sounds like desperation to spin something positive from Brexit. Sadly, they're starting a campaign to ask people to trust them on the vaccine and they've started off with a lie.

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