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I’m currently on day 9 of mild symptoms  Starting about 5 days after My daughter had symptoms and subsequently tested positive.  she’s well over it now.   From my point of view I’ve had far W

It isn't realistic to lock all those with underlying conditions and over 70s in their homes for the rest of the year   It would have to be properly organised. We have various family members

With Schools usually breaking up for the Summer Holidays in July, I do not see the point of sending youngsters back before September.  Government might just have managed to improve on their safety pro

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Yes which is why they were  kicking off at Well'ard ( Well'ard being Drakeford  thinks he is so hard doing stuff before Johnson & Sturgeon.  Well'ard was Ricky Butcher's dog in Eastenders)for his one size fits all lockdown

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"an earlier phase of the OptiGene testing – which was supposed to involve all 250,000 residents of Salford, Greater Manchester, being tested regularly – was quietly scaled back after it struggled to even test 250 Salfordians a day. After the pilot was paused, the government said it would now be smaller in scale and focused on “high-risk environments and groups”."

 

So smaller in scale than the failed first test which failed to achieve its target of just 250 tests a day  ..

 

Where are they re-implementing it? A local happy shopper?

 

Just a point - the Telegraph is challenging these johnson/handcock false claims better than the Guardian

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Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

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The Torygraph seem to be turning on their boy Boris somewhat.

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"When he announced the mass testing plan in September, Johnson conceded it was hugely ambitious but predicted the system could be “widespread” by spring"

 

so testing 250,000 people at the rate of 250 a day for a wider roll-out in 6 months or so was 'ambitious' eh?

Well I suppose it clearly was - as it failed miserably.

.. and £500 million pounds was it? ... to fail to collect and test just 250 spit samples a day? .. from a single geographic location

 

and the guardian has a nice big graphic center piece in the article promoting handcocks utter cobblers 300,000 tests a day ...

while questioning nothing?

thought I was watching the BBC

Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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Ah, this is where they have been redirected - to allow people who can still afford it to travel abroad .. especially Hong Kong

- a clear priority for the health and safety of the British Public and their children.

 

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-heathrow/outbound-covid-testing-launched-at-heathrow-to-unlock-routes-idUKKBN2751I4

 

Do note its outward bound testing ...

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Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

... when Johnson is happy to implement a Border + Visas to access a lorry park in Kent?

 

£288 million pounds a week - The ADDITIONAL cost of Brexit customs bureaucracy alone - stuff that on the side of a bus.

 

Its official: Boris 'The Liar' Johnsons word is not worth the paper its written on

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It's not going well at Serco/Sitel Test and Trace. They're using untrained staff to do clinical assessments of people who have tested positive because they don't have enough staff. They seem to have learned nothing since the first wave.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-test-and-trace-serco-untrained-tracing-b1204648.html

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Test & Trace is a complete disaster, about time the plug was pulled and local Authorities Public health departments funded to do the job anything where data Loss Dido is involved turns sour.

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So anecdote, my wife and daughter's Covid test posted Monday 9 am, Results texted 10pm Wednesday night, Wife negative, Daughter is positive.

We immediately emailed the school despite it being half term here, as her symptoms appeared last Thursday. Head Teacher called us  Public Health Wiltshire informed, email sent out telling her year to self isolate.

 

All pretty efficient, while patient zero is on the phone to all her mates giggling about her loss of smell. 

 

As an aside covid for a 14 year old, was a mild fever for a few hours, and a sore throat. Then back to normal minus a sense of smell. She's now probably been infectious for 8 days, nobody else has had symptoms ' yet'

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fingers crossed London, hope all is OK

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Thanks for that.  Lot's of paranoid temperature checking going on here today.

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Meanwhile Drakeford gone into full control freak mode,  on Wales Firebreak banning sales of all non essential goods whatever he means by that

 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-break-ban-supermarkets-like-19141351

 

Can't see how he can ban online sales but he will try.

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Vahghan Gething given a roasting by Kay burley over whether a hairdryer is essential.  It gets worse in Wales

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8871385/Welsh-ministers-flounder-try-defend-new-shopping-rules.html

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I must say it's all been pretty good and joined together. They even sent a test for my wife as she has medication that she must stop if Covid positive. , which she fortunately wasn't.

 

This disease is incredibly dangerous because of it's unpredictability. We ate at the same table, 3 days in a row, sat together as a family, I drove my daughter around for 3 hours in the day before she had symptoms, and was handing me chewing gums from the pack, at the time she was most infectious, yet 9 days later none of us or her close contacts have displayed any symptoms, (apart from my slightly suspicious sore throat).

 

Then at the other extreme there re super spreader events leading to numerous hospitalisations.  It makes no sense whatsoever!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Its strange that one London,  the tinfoil hatters are doubting the accuracy of the tests, but it may be that individual susceptibility is a variable feast, as in one in a family gets something bad, the rest suffer little at all.  Just hope your missus stays well.

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19 hours ago, brassnecked said:

Meanwhile Drakeford gone into full control freak mode,  on Wales Firebreak banning sales of all non essential goods whatever he means by that

 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-break-ban-supermarkets-like-19141351

 

Can't see how he can ban online sales but he will try.

 

Clothes while shopping not essential ...

 

Well it has got a bit chilly, but if its to help in controlling covid ... if not pneumonia ...

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Why the populist problem with customs checks to cross the Irish sea to meet International agreements and Law

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If your kettle dies you can't buy a new one for the Firebreak period either said Drakeford.

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I was thinking that earlier, BN. Most of us need a kettle and at least a microwave and some gas or electric rings that work. And I don't know many ladies who could do without a hairdryer.

 

Are people meant to order online?

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15 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

I was thinking that earlier, BN. Most of us need a kettle and at least a microwave and some gas or electric rings that work. And I don't know many ladies who could do without a hairdryer.

 

Are people meant to order online?

It's what most of us did before.  If a shop is allowed to open then limiting what we can purchase off the shelves is nothing to do with control of the virus.  They can hardly claim it's about public health that you aren't allowed the paint to redecorate room and keep yourself occupied but you can buy enough alcohol to have a party.

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7 hours ago, brassnecked said:

Vahghan Gething given a roasting by Kay burley over whether a hairdryer is essential.  It gets worse in Wales

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8871385/Welsh-ministers-flounder-try-defend-new-shopping-rules.html

 

Kay Burley's as thick as they come. How she got a job as a news presenter, or in fact any job at all, I'll never quite understand.

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Unfortunately if all this Tier business fails to work, which suspect will be the case we will all be in much the same situation as Wales in a few weeks

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