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Got an lft pack ordered for delivery by going online first thing am

Still no 'local (even 30 miles) pickups - or any at all - just spins searching for an hour if you let it (tried various browsers)

The postals ran out quite quickly - friend tried mid morning - all gone

 

I wasn't desperate, but cant keep using O/Hs ones with the increased testing we are doing with colds etc about.

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

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Meanwhile the fallout in Wales on the NHS becoming NCS continues.  Shows there are systemoc problems with NHS in Wales.

 
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With the following rates, What resources do the NHS have for anything else? ) or even just that

... Over 90,000+ daily confirmed infections and 900+ daily admissions to hospital (so certainly NOT mild symptoms)

.. and this is undoubtedly just the start of the wave

 

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Some better news although I have been seeing some reports in this area that dont quite tie together

 

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Super immunity may be sparked by getting Covid while double-vaccinated

 

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Meanwhile back in the People’s Republic further diktats appear

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59741680

 

Dripfords excelled himself this time

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Dripford is unreal, unless you live in Wales you cannot grasp the muppetry and control freakery of El presidente of the new labour/Plaid Coalition Junta.

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Seems they are available for short spells am, but quickly run out of slots

Still nothing for pick-up

As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

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 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

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“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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11 hours ago, brassnecked said:

Dripford is unreal, unless you live in Wales you cannot grasp the muppetry and control freakery of El presidente of the new labour/Plaid Coalition Junta.

 

You do realise you are saying that to someone living under Johnson and his civil war cabal, for whom simple muppetry would be a vast improvement

 

1 minute ago, honeybee13 said:

Is that LFTs, TJ?

 

Yes

 

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

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Both are equally dire then TJ, latest muppetry work from home or get a fine.

 

 

"The Welsh government has already amended legislation to enforce its work from home rules. 

It has made attending a workplace unnecessarily a criminal offence, with people facing fines for breaking the law. 

The amended legislation states that 'no person may leave the place where they are living, or remain away from that place, for the purposes of work or to provide voluntary or charitable services' when it is 'reasonably practicable' to do so from home."

 

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People must work from home unless there is "a reasonable excuse" with fines for bosses and workers.

 

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.. Like pritti patels 'opinion being law

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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35 minutes ago, brassnecked said:

Both are equally dire then TJ, latest muppetry work from home or get a fine.

 

 

"The Welsh government has already amended legislation to enforce its work from home rules. 

It has made attending a workplace unnecessarily a criminal offence, with people facing fines for breaking the law. 

The amended legislation states that 'no person may leave the place where they are living, or remain away from that place, for the purposes of work or to provide voluntary or charitable services' when it is 'reasonably practicable' to do so from home."

 

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People must work from home unless there is "a reasonable excuse" with fines for bosses and workers.

 

 

 

Raise you

 

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and thats just for starters

 

As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

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and we haven't even really started yet on

 

Proposals tp sink/push back boats in the channel

Deporting people who have lived their whole lives here

Corruption between politicians and the met

Giving taxpayer funded low cost loans to tory pals who donate after receiving loan

The real extent of ppe contract corruption

Breaching international agreements

Making the UK look like useless gutless yellow dogs in Afghanistan

 

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The London Economic - PPE Medpro - which has no history of delivering PPE - also has two directors resident in the Isle of Man -...

 

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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and dont forget that the only reason Johnson isnt doing the same as drayhorse is that

1. He's been caught AGAIN abusing his own rules (and not just a cultural Diwali dance faux pas)

2. A rebellion from his own right wing as they wants peasants earning them money and dont give a crap about them getting ill or dying

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Don't get me wrong, its absolutely certain that should anything even approaching a judicial review which johnson doesn't squash occurs, Johnson and crew will undoubtedly claim incompetent muppetry as an excuse:

 

Johnson when asked to explain:

How could anyone (that means me) know that we were routing taxpayer money to my childs godfathers Tax haven registered companies, which had never dealt in PPE before and had only been created 3 weeks before they were granted 7 * £150M contracts - that you know about so far?

 

OK Boris, perhaps explain why other UK companies who were in the PPE supply chain and had bothe resources and experience were stonewalled

 

Boris

How was i supposed to know that if they weren't at the christening?

As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

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“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Just released : latest WHO guidance on masks.

 

(community link first)

 

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-IPC_masks-2021.1


guideline covers healthcare settings, the public / community settings, with advice for adults, children, and younger children.

 

(Want to know what goes into an effective fabric mask for the general public? This shows / tells you ……)

 

guidance for healthcare settings

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-IPC_Masks-Health_Workers-Omicron_variant-2021.1

 

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Seeing reports in the papers about what family have been saying for a week

 

10% of Consultants already off sick with positive covid tests, and clinics etc being cancelled hand over fist

Staff positive tests rising almost exponentially

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he didn’t realise it was a party

 

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Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

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Quite surprised at the Inde presenting the following article as presented, which is a rehash of prior half truths, with no real support but MANY issues, presented by a guy who quite categorically stated he believed the UK would be free of corona virus by last August

 

That ALL the vaccines generate long term immunity through T-cells etc despite a falling off of initial VERY large amounts of anti-bodies in the bloodstream which are quite confidently understood to curb infection/spread

- that the O/AZ vaccine does this is true, that it does it better that either mRNA or the traditional dead virus vaccines is neither proven, evidenced  or a scientific likelihood based on my understanding.

 

 

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Clive Dix said the durable cellular immunity response produced by the AZ jab can potentially ‘last for life’.

 

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I guess at this stage anybody could claim that immunity from any source could 'potentially' last for life.  It's like using the word 'allegedly'.

 

So far down this seemingly never ending road and it's still a case of pick your favoured expert/opinion.  Don't think that's going to change any time soon.

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Perhaps if there were less Dix clouding the water, we wouldn't be seeing that..

He was apparently also pressuring for GSK vaccines to be fast tracked .. while his company was working with GSK - another Paterson IMO

 

Simple facts now - the o/AZ has been proven less effective than the mRNA vaccines in first line defense anti-body creation

 

They all (vaccines) generate a long term bodily response in most people, and the evidence so far points to the mRNA vaccines being better NOT the O/AZ

 

The evidence so far also overwhelmingly shows that mRNA vaccines are the best of the bunch against the omicron 

 

 

So that Dix is talking crap .. and not presenting any significant evidence to support his rubbish .. again .. having at best a small amount of out of proper context, carefully selected subset, of some data

 

 

What are we actually seeing (apart from the current mRNA vaccines being the best of what is currently available)

 

We aren't seeing the massive increase in hospitalisations ... yet

Why not?

 

1. Maybe omicron is an initially less (at least immediately) damaging variant despite the science saying the opposite is likely

 

2. More likely, the vastly wider inoculation and pre infection has given some level of resistance to severe infection .. as well as 150,000 of the most vulnerable already being beyond infection aka dead.

 

3. Very likely - its early days and it will get worse

 

4. Most likely - 2 +3

 

 

Consider even if Omicron is 50-60% LESS deadly. its 250% more infectious and is very capable of reinfecting. I now know personally a couple who have tested positive twice despite being fully and early vaccinated

 

 

and these goddamn stupid page changes have resulted in the page loading forever again with the christmas format eding up with a tint slider bar as it loads its crap forever

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I'll leave this here for any comments, its not any deniasl of Covid, merely  a Public health Professional's opinion.

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Thats the same on both sides @BN

with 'lead scientists' being quoted as saying that 'Omicron only generates mild disease'

 

Heres the facts

 

Omicron should cause more severe disease accoerding to its 'makeup', but doesn't seem to be at the moment in thjese early days

 

Why?

 

1. Its early days

2. Very high levels of inoculation here - there isnt in many parts of the world despite rich nations throwing vaccine doses away

3. 150,000+ of the most vulnerable are already dead

4. Only seem to be looking at 'severe disease' as 'it quickly clogs your lungs and chokes you to death' but we have already seen, and as separately referred by @hightailthat Omincrom doesn't seem to do that

  4a. No one seems to be looking at the inconvenient FACT that nervous system and brain/heart damage is an identified (if largely ignored) characteristic of Covid-19

5. Spread = mutations

 

So does 'Omicron' generate mild disease?

Almost certainly - No - the vast majority (still to be confirmed) of vaccinated/prior infection survivors MAY only show mild disease. At least so far and for which there may be MANY other factors - like many still observing other mitigations.

 

Even that is still VERY uncertain, and the other damage which may be being done to the major organs and nervous system of the infected seems to be entirely ignored, as is the Virus' well documented tendency to mutate around prior resistance.

 

.. particularly as there are no lfts to be had for pick up or delivery again.

 

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As he waded through the empty bottles and platters of sandwiches pouring out more drinks

he didn’t realise it was a party

 

 "Moral emptiness"  "unrepentant and inveterate liar"

Boris Johnson Mendex est

 

“The failure of the cheerleaders of Brexit to acknowledge the consequences of Brexit as due to Brexit remains remarkable.” - David Schneider

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Oh, and despite the figures being horrendous - over 100,000 infections a day and approaching 150 deaths a day at last count

and over half the current infections apparently being in the double jabbed

 

Did you know that RE-infections apparently aren't counted despite that being a calling card of Omicron?

 

 

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he didn’t realise it was a party

 

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Appears that Boris Johnson may now lead England in a herd immunity direction, with reduced requirements to isolate following a positive Covid test.

 

Australia and parts of Canada have already taken this decision.

 

Very risky to gamble on not having too many requiring Hospital treatment.

 

And also risky to have large numbers of staff who are too unwell to work.

 

Think if I were PM, I would reintroduce more requirements and close some indoor venues for a period in January. And Government would then have to financially support those that cannot trade.

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