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Just remember - no vote IS a vote for Johnson,

and there is no Corbyn as the alternative to give that any semblance of validity

 

and if the Tories get trashed in the locals - we'll have the delight of the Tory infighting to watch which will hopefully keep them too busy to continue the destruction and denouement of the UK

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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not able to reply as waiting for a call back from 111 service, sorry,  still suffering with side effects of the Oxford jab, hope I do not have go back in hospital

 

Sandy

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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how it should be done. Take note Johnson.

 

How Europe sealed its Pfizer deal

The E.U. will finalize a deal this week for 1.8 billion doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine, after a striking alignment of personal diplomacy, political survival and corporate hustle.

For a month, Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, exchanged texts and calls with Albert Bourla, chief executive of Pfizer. Then, finally, a breakthrough: Pfizer might have more doses it could offer the bloc — much more. And the E.U. would be thrilled to have them.

Although many other leaders were also in talks with Pfizer, Bourla said he and von der Leyen had “developed a deep trust, because we got into deep discussions.” He added: “She knew details about the variants. She knew details about everything. So that made the discussion way more engaged.”

Details: The contract will permit the E.U. to resell or donate the vaccines to partners, empowering the bloc to conduct vaccine diplomacy and to support struggling efforts to immunize people in poorer countries.

-NYT briefing

 

If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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10 hours ago, snowdragon said:

not able to reply as waiting for a call back from 111 service, sorry,  still suffering with side effects of the Oxford jab, hope I do not have go back in hospital

 

Sandy

 

I'm no medical practitioner Sandy, but I have been taking vitamin boosts since it started - particularly ones containing  b, d and magnesium.

The lockdowns certainly haven't helped our bodies Vitamin D productions.

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

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I take Vit D and magnesium supplements might do some good.

 

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Her:  So why are we out here in the cold clapping in front of a door knocker thats probably not even made from Brass let alone gold?

 

Him: Well err, I'm not sure, err I think its either for the NHS app if its done yet or an old guy who ..

 

Her (interrupting sharply): Oh do shut up and answer the question Boj

 

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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Sadly, 'not the NHS' digital is half baked at best .. a pin would have done the job ..

 

With the newer vaccines coming up, Curvac has been perhaps one to watch as it was projected to need little more than fridges etc

https://english.alarabiya.net/coronavirus/2021/02/25/Coronavirus-CureVac-COVID-19-vaccine-explainer-Everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-vaccine-

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-06/covid-vaccine-curevac-novavax-nvax-glaxo-gsk-sanofi-sny-race-for-shots

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/health/covid-vaccine-curevac.html

 

but interestingly, the team up with the UK's  Glaxo and the share price drops ...

 

 

 

If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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Although these variants were already here,, calling it 'the Indian variant' may make reporting its spread more 'palatable'

So before I've had my second o/AZ jab - its already of even more limited use - and it would seem high risk for me as I got headaches with the first jab along with muscle pains/flu symptoms etc (I did take paracetamol + ibuprophen regularly as soon as it started - and already took one a day for other reasons anyway) .. and I wont be offered other options it would seem - so far.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/06/new-concerns-indian-covid-variant-clusters-found-across-england-ongoing-risk-high

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

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no of course not..just like the flu, it doesn't, nor does it need too, last for life.

 

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interestingly ... or not

I'm just coming to the end of the worst, heaviest, longest duration snotfest spring cold I've had in maybe 30 years.

(2 negative tests over the two weeks)

 

* Coincidence?

* The jab ..

* Simply that I've been far more isolated than before and I've missed the normal acclimatisation to snot bugs?

.. almost certainly the latter

 

 

If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/10/italian-woman-mistakenly-given-six-doses-of-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

Italian woman mistakenly given six doses of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine

- rumours claim her urine is selling for 50 (E/£/$) per sample bottle on ebay

 

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

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I had my 1st jab in a drive thru, seems they gave a few people a double dose by mistake !!!

 
 

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o/az?

 

If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

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13 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

o/az?

PFIZER

 
 

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

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10 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

lucky devil

I felt absolutely nothing, didn't watch when I was given it and felt nothing since.

Just waiting on my letter for the second.

 
 

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Not sure people would except more lockdowns if other Coronavirus variants caused deaths of those already vaccinated. 

 

The world cannot continue to be in a permanent state of crisis with freedoms of people restricted and economies unable to produce finances to pay for public services.

 

During 2022 politicians around the world may just have to accept that Coronavirus will continue to mutate and that there will be a continuous requirement to provide 6 monthly or annual booster jabs. And there will be acceptance that a percentage of people will die, similar to flu.

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9 hours ago, maroondevo52 said:

I felt absolutely nothing, didn't watch when I was given it and felt nothing since.

Just waiting on my letter for the second.

 

You might get 24-48 hours of flu like symptoms on the second dose with pfiser, but from what I've gathered, IF you get them, they will likely be milder than the ones associated with the O/AZ first jab

Paracetamol in all cases sees to be the most effective treatment from what I've heard and experienced

 

9 hours ago, snowdragon said:

 

Too true SD

All these variants associated with India are already here - apart from any brand new mutations which may be (assuredly are - mutation IS a feature of the virus) occurring. Its what the 'surge testing' which is going on in the UK that we seem to hear so little about (D notices?) - is all about.

 

Lets not forget that a variant which might be considered the parent mutation of much of this was observed spreading through Kent and London with its International Airports for 3 months before Johnson + Handcock reported it .. allegedly forced to as it was about to break in the news anyway

 

To add to the concern AND the relief factor, is the example of :

"

Earlier in the pandemic, the archipelago nation of the Seychelles won acclaim for becoming the world’s most vaccinated country. It relied heavily on China’s Sinopharm vaccine as it inoculated more than 60 percent of its roughly 100,000 people.

But a surge in coronavirus cases, including among the fully vaccinated, now has some questioning that choice of vaccine — even as health officials noted that though people were becoming infected, they were not getting very sick."

- NYT

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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Boris Johnson has confirmed there will be a full statutory inquiry into the government’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, starting work in spring 2022. (

after another winter season of NOT learning any lessons apart from how to enrich cronies)


The government has conducted a secret “lessons learned” review on the Covid pandemic but is refusing to publish it.

https://londonlovesbusiness.com/government-carries-out-in-secret-lessons-learned-review-over-the-handling-of-covid/

 

If it ever arrives, Expect something even more nondescript and full of meaningless waffle, deflection and 'burying a few meaningful sentences in reams of crap' than

https://www.professionalstandards.org.uk/publications/detail/learning-from-covid-19-a-case-study-review

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If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity

you would do exactly what (England) are doing

Jemma Geoghegan - evolutionary virologist, University of Otago

+ the vast majority of the worlds scientific community

 

"unrepentant and inveterate liar" “Moral emptiness and epidemiological stupidity”

Boris Johnson Mendax est

Remember when Johnson or Patel are on stage - Its your choice to BOOO

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