Mutating Corona Virus

[tobyjugg2]

Cant and wouldn't argue with that as a comment on his character BN

.. but still consider the 'rules' of his Ive seen as sensible and generally what I've been doing anyway .. unlike Johnson

 

 

addition:

Dunno when that was as the uploader has disabled comments (always a warning sign)

but as long as it was during the pandemic - he should have set a better example

- hope it not a scam upload BN - I havent checked that far ... yet

 

 

Breaking News

(but still undoubtedly another person in Johnsons thrall)

 

Case steps down from No 10 parties inquiry after reports he attended Christmas event

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Cabinet secretary Simon Case has stepped down from his role heading the inquiry into alleged Christmas parties in Downing Street after reports that...

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

ah

Heres more

So seems he has no real excuses

 

 

Welsh Gov defends Drakeford dancing without mask at Diwali celebration

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The Welsh Government has defended Mark Drakeford after he danced without a mask at a Diwali celebration. A video of the First Minister...

 

 

I wouldn't put that in Johnson class abuses, but still simply wrong by someone in a position of responsibility, let alone a person defining and those sort of requirements. Their actions should be beyond rebroach and a shining example.

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[theoldrouge]

Surprised you didn’t research Dismal Drakeford history in your favorite paper 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/06/corbyn-ally-mark-drakeford-to-be-new-welsh-first-minister

[tobyjugg2]

Thats a really crappy link. Heres a better version

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/06/corbyn-ally-mark-drakeford-to-be-new-welsh-first-minister

 

I'm not welsh

He was wrong to do that maskless antic. Full stop.

Drop in the ocean compared to Johnsons anything or Farages climate science denial and Russian support

I voted for Labour (which was Corbyn at the time) although I even considered voting Conservative (which was Johnson at the time) and it was touch and go at one stage which I would effectively vote for locally. I wanted neither Johnson or Corbyn and certainly didnt want UKIP

 

I did vote for ukiP in the europeans at one stage

Shows we can all make mistakes

- its repeating them that makes us look really stupid ... or corrupt

Edited December 17, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

But you can see why we don't like him in North Wales.  It indicates that the trust we place in them is misplaced irrespective of Party. One rule for us one for them.  Which doesn't help when it comes to mitigating and stopping spread of the as Drakeford pronounces it  Veyruss

[honeybee13]

Are you saying it's a north-south thing, BN?

[tobyjugg2]

@BN

He was a idiot doing that, and we should expect the best from those who should be serving us, and he does come over as an arrogant idiot at that, but do you seriously think he's anything approaching the corrupt piece of doodoo that is Johnson? Really?

 

That quite literally  seems to me as saying someone who stole an apple to eat is is the same as a corporate who defrauded hundreds of millions and caused the death of 10's of thousands

 

If our 'english populists were only that  bad, I'd probably be happy to vote for at least some of them.

[brassnecked]

All as bad as one another TJ we are ill served by our politicians.

[tobyjugg2]

I agree that we are ill served by our politicians, but dont agree that all are as bad as one another

 

Seems to me that the percentage of 'bad politicians has steadily increased - undoubtedly as the previous to that fewer bad politicians made stacks of money out of it, and the sheer number of self-serving corrupt sc** that are in politics at the moment drives me to despair

 

but they aren't all the same.

 

I'm set against corporal punishment generally, but would happily vote for it to be reintroduced for child murderers, especially parents who murder their children (hung drawn and quartered for them monstrous as that punishment is) and corrupt politicians if there was ever a way defined to hold them to account that didn't allow sc** like Johnson to use it to murder his opponents.

 

Despite being strongly apposed to death penalties, to I'd pay good money and queue up to see Johnson tried and hanged for treason..

Put the fear of retribution deep in the souls of the others

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Rather colourful that - but heartfelt

Been reading about the number of children who have been effectively starved, abused and even beaten to death by their parents/guardians of whom duty, decency and nature expects protection of children in our society, and it has hit me hard. I can truly understand how lynch mobs occur.

 

i think those parents and their 'associates are likely to get at least an inkling of just what that feels like in prison - and that thought helps me a little to sleep at night when what they have done and how our so called society failed those children so horrendously dwells on me.

Edited December 18, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[theoldrouge]

On that we can certainly agree 

 

To answer hb’s point about n/s wales, the issue that divides opinion  in the south on Drakeford  most derives from this 

 

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/m4-relief-road-protection-scrapped-20863887

[tobyjugg2]

That seems to imply some sort of belief in Johnson 'the corrupt liars' word as anything more than a 'spoiler to mess with others?

 

We in England seeing 3 story gardenless 'estates' built on the site of a reasonably sized 4 bed detached blotting out the sky and sun from our gardens and towering over our 2 storey house, and having windows looking over our property due to planning changes maximising tory pal profits to the expense of build quality and life quality of both existing and new residents know that is carp.

 

While brownfields sites with less opportunity for profitable house prices remain wasteland ...

 

and lets not even start on HS2 and the ruin, waste and lies coming from that ..

Edited December 18, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[unclebulgaria67]

This YouTube video gives you an idea about how stringent other countries enforce quarantine on arrival.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

18 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

I agree that we are ill served by our politicians, but dont agree that all are as bad as one another

 

Seems to me that the percentage of 'bad politicians has steadily increased - undoubtedly as the previous to that fewer bad politicians made stacks of money out of it, and the sheer number of self-serving corrupt sc** that are in politics at the moment drives me to despair

 

but they aren't all the same.

 

I'm set against corporal punishment generally, but would happily vote for it to be reintroduced for child murderers, especially parents who murder their children (hung drawn and quartered for them monstrous as that punishment is) and corrupt politicians if there was ever a way defined to hold them to account that didn't allow sc** like Johnson to use it to murder his opponents.

 

Despite being strongly apposed to death penalties, to I'd pay good money and queue up to see Johnson tried and hanged for treason..

Put the fear of retribution deep in the souls of the others

 

 

I'm going to back off from all those statements on murdering even murderers - made from a dark place in a period of utter outrage.

 

But they should be jailed and have real 'chain gang' style punishment to go even some small way to pay the unpayable debt they owe to society and the world. not TV's and comfy rooms to laze in. Let alone some open 'blue collar' style prison,

 

I really do see these corrupt self serving politicians as no better than child murderers, because they generate a society where abuses, lies and criminality in all areas grow, and children are deliberately (that vote a prime example) and consciously left hungry, cold and vulnerable.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Dont know about anyone else, but I still cant get lft test packs either delivered (no delivery slots) or pick up from chemist (just permanently spins while 'loading results' - which it doesnt). Later was saying no tests available for pick up within 30 miles - now just swivels ....

 

phuuutttt

[brassnecked]

Might not be an immediate  need to test TJ if Johnson imposes that threatened Lockdown, would be relatively  pointless if incarcerated at home with non essential shops closed, something SAGE are suggesting after seeing what Drakeford did in Wales last year.  They are like hens teeth in Wales also. Think Construction firm one of my sons works for has some in the office, but from today he MUST work from home by law under Drakeford's  mandates, sadly he cannot comply as is in London, dismantling the site IT and computers from a completed project.  Need 5 or 6 a day here given Drakeford wants us to test if we take rubbish out to the bin even.

[tobyjugg2]

Good points, but is the lockdown more likely because of lack of LFT's?

and why the heck at the start of a predicted MASSIVE next wave, are we short - damn all in the papers about this crucial issue.

[hightail]

But ................................ Boris can blame us for not testing if there are no test kits to be had.  I really don't think you've grasped govt logic TJ

[brassnecked]

Yes bang on HT, the governments locs is perverse and twisted at best.  The fact there are no LFT's to use are a good enough reason to Lockdown "Just in Case" like Drakeford would say to keep the crafty veyruss (Drakeford's pronunciation of virus)at bay.

[tobyjugg2]

No lfts

.. is it no jabs next?

 

 

 

Vaccine clinic forced to shut after consignment of jabs is not delivered

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The NHS said there are enough doses of the vaccine for all eligible people in London.

 

[tobyjugg2]

Lets hope it was just a mismanaged glitch

 

... or two

 

Lateral flow tests 'running low' at council as Christmas approaches | Shropshire Star

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Stock of Lateral Flow Tests are "running low" at a council, which says they are not likely to be restocked before Christmas.

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

Thought they had plenty plus 2 million Moderna to use up before they expire

 

[tobyjugg2]

??

On whos word?

 

Lets just hope its a few small supply chain glitches.

Edited December 20, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Got an lft pack ordered for delivery by going online first thing am

Still no 'local (even 30 miles) pickups - or any at all - just spins searching for an hour if you let it (tried various browsers)

The postals ran out quite quickly - friend tried mid morning - all gone

 

I wasn't desperate, but cant keep using O/Hs ones with the increased testing we are doing with colds etc about.

Edited December 21, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

Meanwhile the fallout in Wales on the NHS becoming NCS continues.  Shows there are systemoc problems with NHS in Wales.

 

All non-urgent treatment at North Wales hospitals cancelled with immediate effect - North Wales Live

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Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board (BCUHB) has issued a statement on the situation