Mutating Corona Virus

[honeybee13]

Please, no... After what she's already done?

[brassnecked]

Last person who should be  in charge of NHS is Data Loss Dido.  She is a walking disaster area.

[honeybee13]

The current head of the NHS, who's leaving soon, is asked if he thinks Door Matt is hopeless.

 

This is excellent.

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1405639771607678983

 

[tobyjugg2]

“I would hope that all candidates’ applications are judged on the basis of their recent performance in public sector roles, which in her case speaks for itself. Failing which, Dominic Cummings WhatsApp ought to provide a candid assessment.”

- Justin Madders

 

No clear evidence the £37 Billion test & trace had made any difference whatsoever in cutting Covid rates

- Commons public accounts committee

 

Test and Trace “wins the prize for the most wasteful and inept public spending programme of all time”.

- Former Treasury permanent secretary Nick Macpherson

 

 

[brassnecked]

So Data Loss Dido is uniquely qualified to wreck the NHS for Boris, so he can hive it off to US heathcare firms when matty has flogged them all that juicy patient data.

[tobyjugg2]

while we wait Dodo Har-har-didling to run (down) the NHS

Anyone know how many vaccine doses the UK has binned?

 

Even the Israelis are giving their almost out of date ones to their hated enemies - Palestinians

 

[honeybee13]

Binned? What do you know, TJ?

 

I'm also interested in whether the UK has exported any vaccines yet.

[honeybee13]

This sounds like March last year.

 

Officials are doing “as much as we possibly can” to accommodate the European football championship after it was reported the government is to allow thousands of VIPs into England without the need to quarantine to stop the final being moved from Wembley to Budapest, a minister has said.

 

VIPs ‘to be let into England without quarantine to keep Euros final at Wembley’ | Euro 2020 | The Guardian

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Plan would exempt 2,500 Uefa and Fifa officials and politicians from rules faced by other travellers

 

[tobyjugg2]

10 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Binned? What do you know, TJ?

 

I'm also interested in whether the UK has exported any vaccines yet.

 

To my knowledge the UK has not exported or donated a single vaccine anywhere

The aussie ones (which they ended up not wanting) were apparently from EU manufactured stocks

 

Not looked hard yet, but no signs of whats happening to any older UK stocks, although in the earlier stages hospitals and surgeries were vaccinating staff (and quite rightly too) with any left overs.

 

Cant belive that there haven't been any stocks that went past their use/storage date - and none donated anywhere

- a further revelation to come?

 

[brassnecked]

Covid: distorting the debate | Turbulent Times

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Matt Hancock, according to The Times is set to be exonerated over claims that he lied to the prime minister, despite Cummings dropping his "totally...

 

[tobyjugg2]

Small fish compared to unlawfully proroguing parliament, misleading parliament, deals for donations, abusing and bullying staff and not just getting away with it - but then lying about it and attacking the mechanisms intended to protect our democratic processes.

[tobyjugg2]

“I’ve just been talking to your Secretary of State for Health, poor man...he’s full of ..”

- HRH to Boj der-Faffing Liar

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Scientist Finds Early Coronavirus Sequences That Had Been Mysteriously Deleted - The New York Times

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By rooting through files stored on Google Cloud, a researcher says he recovered 13 early coronavirus sequences that had disappeared from a...

 

 

Uh, and what that says to me is that there is a cover up

BUT not that the virus was created in a lab, but that it had been in and mutating in and around woohan for some time

.. but we knew that already as shown earlier in the thread

I still have little doubt its the illegal animal trade that initially mutated and then spread it

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

 

Test and trace still failing to hit goals as money wasted and tests not returned, watchdog finds

"Warning that system ‘plagued by same issues as at the start of the year’ – despite ballooning budget"

"The much-criticised organisation has far to go “to achieve its objectives”, the National Audit Office says, warning of the danger of performance slipping even further."

 

Test and trace still failing to hit goals as money wasted and tests not returned, watchdog warns

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Warning that system ‘plagued by same issues as at the start of the year’ – despite ballooning budget

 

As a startling rise in 'normal' respiratory infections spreads among children who are likely to be the reservoir of covid infections in the increasing numbers of the current wave

 

A&E units in UK report rapid rise in children’s infections | Children's health | The Guardian

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Problems usually only seen in winter are surfacing after easing of social contact rules

 

 

as evidence is possibly emerging of the Tartan Army taking Delta+ Covid infections back to Scotland

 

and India seems to be seeing around 1.3% death rate from the Delta variants, and is undoubtedly generating new variants in the process.

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Despite all of the denials of HMG using herd immunity, it was built into forecasts in February this year by the Cabinet Office.

 

The Ghost of 'Herd Immunity' Still Haunts Boris Johnson's 'Roadmap' Out of Lockdown – Byline Times

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While other countries are focused on the vaccine, Nafeez Ahmed reveals how the UK's Cabinet Office asked SAGE to model ‘herd immunity’ through a...

 

[honeybee13]

What a waste of money.

 

Test And Trace Has Lost Track Of Nearly 600 Million Covid Tests

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Beleaguered service sent out mass tests but just 14% have been registered as used.

 

[honeybee13]

The Canadian military collected online information on members of the public in order to monitor them and planned to use psy ops on them. Without being asked to. Imagine if they'd had people's NHS information as well...

 

Military violated rules by collecting information on Canadians, conducting propaganda during pandemic: report

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Investigations into the activities have concluded not only were rules not followed, but senior leaders also had no authority to conduct such initiatives.

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Looking at front page of some UK newspapers, it appears the Secretary of State for Health Matt Hancock has been taking part in a new Covid testing trial.  The trial being, how to carry out a lateral flow test on two people at the same time

 

Are there no limits to the sacrifices this Minister is willing to make for the country !

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

16 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Despite all of the denials of HMG using herd immunity, it was built into forecasts in February this year by the Cabinet Office.

 

The Ghost of 'Herd Immunity' Still Haunts Boris Johnson's 'Roadmap' Out of Lockdown – Byline Times

BYLINETIMES.COM

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While other countries are focused on the vaccine, Nafeez Ahmed reveals how the UK's Cabinet Office asked SAGE to model ‘herd immunity’ through a...

 

 

Shows the utter incompetence of the populists, whos excuse is always 'how could anybody see what was there to be clearly seen rather than the fantasies we pulled out of our asses because it suited our spin' aka incompetence++ (plus plus malicious negligence)

 

They just had to look at MERS, to confirm the reports coming out of China to see that this was not  'just another flu'

- even if they preferred their politicians fantasies to the science stated by real UK scientists.

 

In perhaps as little as 25 years COV (as we currently know it) may well largely be (or well on the way to be) 'just another flu

- when it has had time to 'cull' all those susceptible and the survivors have higher levels of natural immunity (survival of the 'fittest') - just like with 'just other flus'

 

... even if this does end up being 'the big one' as it may still be.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 26, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

2 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

Looking at front page of some UK newspapers, it appears the Secretary of State for Health Matt Hancock has been taking part in a new Covid testing trial.  The trial being, how to carry out a lateral flow test on two people at the same time

 

Are there no limits to the sacrifices this Minister is willing to make for the country !

 

 

 

or as one wit put it:

New jingle: Hands Face Ar*e

 

Perhaps a more 'politically correct' version

(no, not lying through teeth, cheating and ripping off the population - the old version of politically correct)

- Face to face and Hands around waists

[unclebulgaria67]

Not looking good for the July 19th freedom day

 

UK Covid cases jump nearly 80% in a week to 18,270 | Daily Mail Online

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A further 18,270 people tested positive today in a 77 per cent rise on the 10,321 cases recorded last Saturday. Some 23 people died from Covid...

 

[honeybee13]

That's such a shame. If only they'd closed the border with India when they did with Bangladesh and Pakistan.

[unclebulgaria67]

Reports from Doctors that those going into Hospital with Covid  at the moment, are in a more serious condition than they were previously.  Is this people who have not had vaccinations.

 

Or are people who have had the vaccinations,  waiting too long to seek help, if  they become unwell, thinking that the vaccination immunity should be given a chance to work.

[hightail]

It does appear that the vast majority of hospital cases are the unvaccinated.  There will be those in whom the vaccine doesn't work of course and (guessing) those vaccinated who have comorbidities.  They'd still be at greater risk of more serious symptoms, just hopefully not as serious as if they had no vaccine protection.

[tobyjugg2]

3 hours ago, hightail said:

It does appear that the vast majority of hospital cases are the unvaccinated.  There will be those in whom the vaccine doesn't work of course and (guessing) those vaccinated who have comorbidities.  They'd still be at greater risk of more serious symptoms, just hopefully not as serious as if they had no vaccine protection.

 

There are also instances of significant infection among the double vaccinated without underlying complications (Andrew Marr for one), but they do seem quite significantly less severe than they would have been - but still bad to bloody awful. (think your jab symptoms multiplied)

 

Any who think that vaccination is the end of it is greatly mistaken - sadly. I now have veryy little doubt there is going to be another very significant wave through this autumn/winter. How severe depends on

* the vaccination levels - and the clear understanding that 'herd immunity' levels seem to be mathematically impossible (see the math higher in the thread)

* the effectiveness of any booster jabs against the new variants and any more new variants (what booster jabs would they be?) and the impact of breakout colds/flu/other respiratory illnesses on spread and immune systems

* and of course the competence of our leaders

... so it does seem that we are likely well and truly f***ed as things stand

 

 

Edited June 27, 2021 by tobyjugg2