Mutating Corona Virus

[tobyjugg2]

They are literally not contacting or counting the sectors that they performed badly in .. the excuse they use is irrelevant

 

Prime suspect so far for the allergic (used loosely) reaction to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is Polyethelene glycol

[tobyjugg2]

Well, I've had little tolerance of what I've considered to be conspiracy nuts regarding the Coronavirus outbreak, until now

 

You apparently have schools trying to competently manage the education, care and safety of the children, staff and families being threatened with prosecution under covid emergency powers to force them to remain superseeding hotspots for Christmas

 

"The school, Presdales in Ware, was planning to teach the majority of its pupils remotely for the last week of term, while continuing to provide socially distanced, face-to-face lessons for vulnerable pupils, children who need extra support and any other students who wished to come into school. Only about 25 pupils were expected to come in, so they could all sit 2 metres away from each other in class."

 

"The government is using its emergency powers under the Coronavirus Act to threaten to use legal action against headteachers in England who want to allow their pupils to learn remotely in the run-up to Christmas."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/dec/12/minister-threatens-school-heads-over-pre-christmas-online-lessons

 

"The Observer understands any schools that were planning to move most of their teaching online during the last week of term, to ensure none of their pupils would have to self-isolate on Christmas Day, are being ordered to remain open."

Edited December 12, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scotch-egg-pub-covid-tier-2-b1771146.html

[honeybee13]

I hope this is a non paywall link to the Times about when the PM decided in September to disagree with the Sage scientists and follow advice from less well known figures. This led him not to lock down early - again - and to prioritise the economy over keeping people safe.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/48-hours-in-september-when-ministers-and-scientists-split-over-covid-lockdown-vg5xbpsfx

[brassnecked]

No economy lest to protect in North Wales HB it seems.

[honeybee13]

I'm not sure wht you mean, BN?

[brassnecked]

Mostly Tourism & Hospitality, Drakeford completely kiboshed that, infections less that a tenth of South Wales. Businesses closing and people redundant.

[honeybee13]

Thank you. I can see why people would be annoyed.

[brassnecked]

Yes there is a severe disconnect between North & South Wales, and its quicker to drive to London or Scotland than Cardiff or Swansea from here.  Drakeford is indicative of what Corbyn would have done in Engerland, he is Drakeford's marxist buddy

[tobyjugg2]

 

How the novel coronavirus has evolved

The world is now dealing with a different type of SARS-CoV-2 than the one that emerged in China almost a year ago, with mutations creating at least seven strains of the virus so far.

 

https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/EVOLUTION/yxmpjqkdzvr/

 

 

December 14, 2020

expert reaction to the new variant of SARS-CoV-2

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-the-new-variant-of-sars-cov-2/

[honeybee13]

Your thread title has come true then.

[tobyjugg2]

I know there was some dispute at the start, but the title was specifically and carefully chosen.

[tobyjugg2]

some of the other issues raised in the first posts are also becoming clearer.

 

There is mounting evidence that other vaccinations also boost the bodies resistance to the novel coronavirus or at least its effects

eg MMR and TB

[honeybee13]

The BMJ and the Health Service Journal have taken the unusual step of issuing a joint editorial warning against having an 'amnesty' at Christmas.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/15/uk-medical-journals-call-for-christmas-covid-rules-to-be-reversed

[tobyjugg2]

Yet they continue sending kids to school rather than investing in increased access to home tutoring

Even threatening headmasters with 'the law' although outrage at that obnoxious stance is increasing

Edited December 15, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

The schools thing sounds weird. If kids can learn remotely and be self-isolating before seeing family if that's what they want, I don't understand why they should be stopped. If the classrooms were emptier, that would help too.

[brassnecked]

Doesn't add up the schools thing, although there will be many families without the facility for online learning.

[honeybee13]

David Allen Green [FT]'s blog today is about Gavin Williamson's letter to Greenwich council who have decided not to fight. Gavin is using Covid law rather than education rules.

 

Meanwhile, Basildon has closed all but one of its schools. I'm more confused now...

 

https://davidallengreen.com/2020/12/the-shoddy-legal-direction-of-gavin-williamson-to-greenwich-council/

[tobyjugg2]

Too true HB, doesn't make sense. Driven by Political reaction rather than rational planning.

 

@BN

 

Yes - understand that poorer families might not have the facilities to enable online tutoring in the way of sitting at a terminal with other kids and the teacher in a zoom lesson, but there are ways to work around that,

and lets not forget that the schools will be remaining open for at risk kids, the children of essential workers and of course any that simply need to be there.

but If only half are home tutored either via 'zoom or simply allocated books and paper and lessons which are checked ... .... ....

 

We should be 3-6 months into enabling this by now.

This covid epidemic is the warning shots across the bow from nature, not a once a century event.

Of that I have NO doubt.

[brassnecked]

Yes TJ alternatives must be found, and a different platform than Zoom, its banned from several organisations as client is effectively a Rootkit, so a security risk.  No way would I install it on my Linux Box.  Might be a way to use it from a USB based distro running in a RAMDISK sandboxed and denied access to other drives.

[tobyjugg2]

Dodgy dealings, taxpayer money fiddling and pal prioritising aside for the moment ..

Interesting that the UK gov apparently aspire to inoculate up to 25 million UK citizens throughout 2021 for the sum of £12 billion+ in taxpayer costs

.. thats 240 quid per inoculation of the (two doses) 25 million people ... if Handcocks crony's/chums/whoever get as far as the 'up to that is

... excluding the costs of actually giving the jabs it seems

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/16/tensions-mount-over-handling-of-uk-covid-vaccine-rollout

 

I'll add this for further background info

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/coronavirus/gps-to-be-paid-12-85-per-jab-as-details-set-out-for-covid-vaccination-campaign/

Edited December 16, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

@BN

 

Have you any ideas why covid seems to be spreading so badly in wales?

 

[honeybee13]

I saw a map of Covid cases in Wales yesterday or the day before and the cases seemed to be mainly in the south. BN mentioned that the other day but I'm still interested to know why the virus is spreading.

 

Also, what's the deal on 11,000 positive cases that have just come to light?

[tobyjugg2]

yes, Crazy that North Wales is locked down based on south figures

- but I vaguely understand that it might be because of travel from Northern England into North Wales

 

.. mind you - just like London was in tier 2 when mid/Northern England areas with lessor spread were in tier 2

 

There are probably no really right answers, but we do seem to be having some clearly wrong 'answers' thrust upon us.

[brassnecked]

not a clue but NHS Wales lost 10, 000 positive tests we are told will post link when I find it, North & Mid Wales are very low less than a tenth of cases here compared to Cardiff & valleys.

 

The latest measures have basically put North Wales all on Universal Credit as Hospitality main employment here. Hotels and restaurants  have had to cancel all Christmas day lunch bookings and close completely, and from 28th all travel iss verboten out of wales apart from work, but we hear he is trying to ban all cross border travel.  Don't think he can.  Drakeford is now a figure of hete in North Wales But hay keep everyone indoors irrespective to control the virus, 

 

Also another Pfizer vaxx incident

 

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/16/hospital-worker-in-intensive-care-after-suffering-severe-allergic-reaction-to-covid-vaccine-13763695/