Mutating Corona Virus

[tobyjugg2]

Boris 'the Liar' speech translated

 

'Some months ago we told you you had to stay at home to protect the NHS, and you understood that our decimation of NHS funding meant that all other NHS work had to stop, and its resourses were severely limited.

Now I'm sure some foolish people thought that was to allow time for the underfunding and the under staffing of the NHS to be reversed.

But clearly, as the majority of you did as requested, and suffered and died quietly at home and in homes to a level we could barely believe, clearly it meant that the money we might have been forced to spend on the NHS could be retargetted to our mates like serco - so of course we did.

 

Now 6 months on, with the NHS staff exhausted and at breaking point,  our pals simply cant be expected to actually deliver on the ridiculous claims, we are simply trying the same scam again on you idiots to free up even more debt generated money to route to our pals tax haven bank accounts which your children, childrens children unto the 7th generation can pay back.

 

So, with PPE money allocated to companies we chose who clearly needed the money, and debt at record levels I'm sure you will all realise that again everyone else must not mingle, and must stay at home wherever possible, so the children can go and mingle in schools in full sized classes and allow the virus to spread there and get back to you smart arse plebs locked in at home who have managed to avoid it so far.

and I'm sure you will all understand its absolutely crucial that neither you or your family -  especially children - should waste essential resources and apply for tests until you are showing clear covid symptoms and we know you have it.

 

Thank you suckers.
Bojo

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8900129/Boris-Johnson-facing-Tory-revolt-new-lockdown-Furious-MPs-lead-backlash.html

[tobyjugg2]

I think Johnson is now under assault on three (perhaps 4) fronts

 

1. The remnants of the real tories who are challenging his incompetence and reckless wasting of money with only a few personally profiting from it while even traditional Tory plebs are suffering

 

2. The ERG/populist nastiest of the nasty party who got him in, who think he isnt routing enough of the money to them and who think the p[lebs should be out earniung them money until they die

 

3. A resurgent labour party under a competent leader

 

4 (perhaps) the return of the Jewish to the labour fold now Corbyn has received a well needed slap.

 

...

5 - the voters who only voted for him because they literally thought he had promised to:

'Vote for me and on October 31st and we (the Johnsonites, ERG and Brexiters) would jump off a cliff do or  die

- yet here we are, another Oct 31st has passed and the git hasn't taken his opo's and jumped off a cliff.

 

[honeybee13]

There's the NRG as well, TJ. What a shame for Boris.

[tobyjugg2]

43 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

There's the NRG as well, TJ. What a shame for Boris.

 

I had included them in option 2 if their 'leaders' are anything to go by HB

 

Dont think most of them give a crap about the people.

[honeybee13]

You could be right but I don't quite see it that way. I would like to think that the NRG are more concerned about their citizens but I could be wrong. Time will tell.

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Could be wrong as I haven't checked every one individually, but didn't every single one of them vote to block feeding hungry kids?

The vast majority certainly did - including the leadership

- the majority of those hungry kids being in the North?

 

 

Edited November 1, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

Good point, TJ. I imagine they're part of the 322. Still pressure on Bozo now though.

[tobyjugg2]

Disenfranchised johnsonite opportunists ..

Esther Mcvay ('nuff ssaid), Thick as mince do nowt Davies, and led by the man who has already totally sold out and utterly failed 'the Northern Powerhouse' as its minister - Jake berry

 

Not looking like anything other than another ERG faction using whatever for their own ends to me .. whatever the rank file in it might think or not.

[tobyjugg2]

In fact, they are probably nothing more than distractions there to draw gullible support from and credit for anything which is achieved by the real Northern leaders

[honeybee13]

Just what we need, Farage is relaunching the Brexit Party under a new name and with an anti-lockdown agenda. This is going to cause further division.

 

And nobody knows where the money to back him is coming from.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-farage/nigel-farage-set-to-relaunch-brexit-party-as-anti-lockdown-party-idUSKBN27H1SU

[honeybee13]

According to the Guardian, the tests that Johnson wants to send out in a huge operation for people to test themselves aren't designed for that purpose. 20 million of them.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/02/doubts-over-rapid-turnaround-covid-tests-pledged-by-johnson

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

Just what we need, Farage is relaunching the Brexit Party under a new name and with an anti-lockdown agenda. This is going to cause further division.

 

And nobody knows where the money to back him is coming from.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-farage/nigel-farage-set-to-relaunch-brexit-party-as-anti-lockdown-party-idUSKBN27H1SU

 

 

they didn't before - and investigations mainly looked the other way

Look for agenda links with nrg

 

 

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

According to the Guardian, the tests that Johnson wants to send out in a huge operation for people to test themselves aren't designed for that purpose. 20 million of them.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/02/doubts-over-rapid-turnaround-covid-tests-pledged-by-johnson

 

I've not looked into detail which test is which and there are a number of lateral flow tests which use slightly different 'forms

 

but the more appropriate ones are supposed to be like a pregnancy test and about 93% accurate

 

they 'magnify' anything searched for that is found in the body, so if the magnification is slightly off, orthe viral load balance (where it congregates) in the body is off so is the test

 

As they magnify what they find - they are also very 'level of infection' specific

ie

Magnify too much - everyone shows positive

Magnify not enough - no-one tests positive

Too early or too late in the virus life infection cycle - false negative or positive when on the mend

Particular person has lower viral load in 'wherever/whatever tested fro any reason - false negative

 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[London1971]

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

Just what we need, Farage is relaunching the Brexit Party under a new name and with an anti-lockdown agenda. This is going to cause further division.

 

And nobody knows where the money to back him is coming from.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-farage/nigel-farage-set-to-relaunch-brexit-party-as-anti-lockdown-party-idUSKBN27H1SU

It’s a Virus, you can’t negotiate with it to go away. Farage is a sideshow here! 

[honeybee13]

One of their main principles is herd immunity, London.

[London1971]

Yup, problem is the maths shows the NHS failing by Christmas. So the ‘herd’ could be anybody who has a heart attack, car crash, infection etc.

 

I swear do people who believe in this really think anything through logically?

 

Good news is a snap You Gov poll shows high public support for lockdown at 73%

[honeybee13]

David Lammy tweeted this earlier about Farage's new party.

 

Nigel Farage’s EU salary ran out, Trump is unlikely to remain President & it’s too cold to shout at refugees from Dover.

 

So now he seeks votes risking lives by opposing public health measures in a pandemic.

 

There has never been a more shameless opportunist in British politics.

[London1971]

Yup, I wonder if he truly believes that we should just let Covid do it’s work, unchallenged.

 

This is not a joke, my daughter was ill for 1 day , I had mild symptoms, fevers and chills and headaches for 12 days, now my wife has come down with symptoms much more like the flu than I did. Test on it’s way.

 

The way it affects everyone so differently is terrifying. The way it takes hold in a house is terrifying. And it would seem like in the end to get this controlled Schools are going to have to close .

[honeybee13]

I hope you're feeling better now, London. Best wishes to your wife and I hope she feels better soon.

[tobyjugg2]

+1

[London1971]

Yup, I went for a socially isolated run and managed 4 miles so I’m guessing Covid is done with me.

 

Thanks for the best wishes, I’m just keeping an eye on it, into the second week for her. Luckily hospitals are not yet under so much pressure in this area, If it’s needed.

[tobyjugg2]

The figures indicate as many as 500,000 deaths if covid was allowed to run its course

- and that is largely based on the Virus not significantly mutating while jumping among millions, many of whom would already be infected, and that there was significant immunity generated in the majority of the population 

- both of those assumptions would be unjustified and stupid assumptions of truly epic proportions

 

Without a genuine world class (doesn't need to be world beating) test system which doesn't require you to be showing infected symptoms before you are tested - as its too late then, PLUS a quality follow up trace and test system,

.. neither of which we have, even the current proposed lockdown isn't likely to cut it (although it will reduce the spread unquestionably)

 

If slovakia manages to do this, why can't or haven't we?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/half-slovakia-population-covid-tested-covid-one-daV

Edited November 2, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[London1971]

This lockdown will carry on for months, and schools will end up closing , its hard to see how they won’t.

 

Politicians like IDS, Desmond Swayne and opportunists like Farage don’t seem to understand that 1 million people at the same time needing hospital treatment will bring the economy to a grinding standstill far worse than any lockdown could.

 

I don’t understand if they are stupid or they simply don’t care.

[tobyjugg2]

As a little profiteering aside

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1322646591010971649.html

 

The chair of the UK's vaccine task force showed “official sensitive” government documents to a $200-a-head event for elite US venture capitalists last week
 

Bingham combines the role (chair of the UK's vaccine task force ) with her job as managing director of SV Health Investors, a private equity firm
Like Dido Harding, she is married to a Conservative MP: Treasury Minister Jesse Norman.

 

[hightail]

8 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

The chair of the UK's vaccine task force showed “official sensitive” government documents to a $200-a-head event for elite US venture capitalists last week

They don't even attempt to hide these antics.  In their heads it's acceptable. 

 

The Good Law Project and Runnymede Trust have launched legal proceedings against the government’s repeated appointment of individuals who are connected with senior members of the Conservative Party – without advertising these roles.

Good on them for trying but we all know where this will end up - absolutely nowhere.