Mutating Corona Virus

[honeybee13]

This is the article Richard North was talking about.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/no-one-had-any-idea-contact-tracers-lack-knowledge-about-covid-19-job

 

How come there are suddently 25,000 contract tracers coming, when they set out to recruit 18k? Even sadder though, is the situation with local authority public health services who are  already trained and could deal with this on the ground, if they had the resources.

[brassnecked]

Me being cynical, likley many of the Tory cronies have shares in Serco. I wouldn't tyrust Serco to run a whelk stall, and they have already messed up with Contract Tracer recruits email addresses, how robust will their Data Security Systems be? looking at who will have access it will be as effecive as a colander as a rain hat.

[maroondevo52]

Portobello Beach in Edinburgh yesterday and we are still in Lockdown !!!

[honeybee13]

Gee, Maroon - what lockdown? I can't imagine how it will be once it stats lifting.

[maroondevo52]

16 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Gee, Maroon - what lockdown? I can't imagine how it will be once it stats lifting.

 

Nicola's announcing relaxing the Lockdown today, that angered a lot of people yesterday who are sticking to the rules.

Police were on the beach warning people but no fines were issued, there's not a lot they can do with that many people just doing what they want.

 

A few of the KFC's and Burger Kings were closed by Police last week as the queue's were causing chaos in surrounding roads.

[brassnecked]

That is very disturbing, quite unlike my experience venturing out for weekly shop, nearly totalled by a police car. she was cutting corner, and realising last minute a car there  She didn't stop,

[tobyjugg2]

1 hour ago, cjcregg said:

Footballers aren't getting tested because the government or NHS  thinks they're ''more important''. The premier league are paying for the tests privately (as indeed anyone could) as has been widely reported.

 

FGS, I do realise that,

but that they, like Gove, are allowed to use up such a limited resource just because they can afford it is an abomination

 

The point is that they are to be tested twice a week - just in case one presumes,

when my daughter in law - a nurse - has not been tested once in the last three months

 and there is no intention to test the people 'tracked and traced'

 

 

 

[brassnecked]

They have dismantled the local provision by centralising it all, so couldn't sort it whilst they have a hole in their backside, unless they change course invest in LocalTeams, and abandon that app.

[honeybee13]

I think I read that they've asked local public health teams to organise testing for care homes. Someone we know works in a care home and they've been tested once since the epidemic began, about three weeks ago.

[citizenB]

2 hours ago, maroondevo52 said:

Portobello Beach in Edinburgh yesterday and we are still in Lockdown !!!

And here is another one.. in Essex this time.. ? 

 

 

[honeybee13]

That's unbelievable, CB. Wait for the second wave of cases...

[London1971]

Yup, I'm sure the Premier League can find a bit of spare money behind the Sofa to pay privately for tests. Although I do think that with the news of Brighton and Watford players testing positive in the last week, all talk of the season resuming is purely academic.  It's a shame because as @hightail says, it is good for morale, and a feeling of normality.

[hightail]

2 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

That's unbelievable, CB. Wait for the second wave of cases...

Surely that second wave has to come sometime anyway unless we stay in a complete lockdown with closed borders forever and that's not realistic.

 

 

 

 

[honeybee13]

I agree. But you'd hope that social distancing would mean that fewer people catch the virus in the first place.

 

The point of lockdown as I understand it was to get the country ready with measures like social distancing at work and in public places and to introduce tracking and tracing.

[brassnecked]

Would have thought so HB, but that App isn't the best method.

[honeybee13]

I didn't mean the app, BN, I meant humans.

[brassnecked]

Ah yes HB, but we needs humans doing any tracking and tracing

[maroondevo52]

The number of people speeding on the roads is shocking.

Last night I was returning on the M8 from Glasgow to Edinburgh doing about 65mph and a guy in a black BMW flew past me and he must have been doing 110 plus, total madness.

When I came round a bend, I could see in the distance the Traffic Police chasing and pulling this guy over, couldn't get the smile of my face when I passed them stopped on the hard shoulder.

[brassnecked]

No excuse for it

[honeybee13]

Even the Telegraph are saying that an earlier lockdown would have prevented many deaths and led to a shorter overall lockdown.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/20/earlier-lockdown-could-have-prevented-three-quarters-uk-coronavirus/

[honeybee13]

More on testing. Greater Manchester is using local public sector testing and the government's tests. The public sector tests are giving them the information they need on cases quickly while the government system hasn't sent any results through since early May. Not helpful for infection control.

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/greater-manchester-still-doesnt-know-18288943

 

Elsewhere, there's talk on Twitter that around 350,000 tests nationally have been double-counted, as nasal and throat swabs are being counted separately in some cases.

[London1971]

My wife had a fever and cough, rang 111 on Wednesday. Test arrived via Amazon yesterday afternoon. Send back by courier. She's got an underlying condition, so is a priority.  

[honeybee13]

I hope she feels better soon, London.

 

Do they send the results to you or your GP maybe?

 

HB

[tobyjugg2]

19 minutes ago, London1971 said:

My wife had a fever and cough, rang 111 on Wednesday. Test arrived via Amazon yesterday afternoon. Send back by courier. She's got an underlying condition, so is a priority.  

 

Hope she quickly and safely gets over it london.

 

any idea of where the infection may have come from?

[brassnecked]

Hope all is well London.

 

Dr North provided some links today also, basically Hancock's app won't work as is not local enough, and  the trst results go to different databases apparently.

 

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87615#disqus_thread

 

"The problem is the way the test results are collated, in separate databases, processed by completely different systems. As collected, they cannot be broken down to local level and therefore cannot be usefully shared with councils. Thus, local officials complain that there are an enormous number of people being tested "but we don't know who they are, where they work, we don't know what their results are".