Mutating Corona Virus

[tobyjugg2]

Facemasks:

 

https://scienceblog.com/515500/the-case-for-diy-masks-to-slow-coronavirus-spread/

 

[hightail]

On 11/04/2020 at 09:35, tobyjugg2 said:

Only reason I can think of is that they aren't accurately reporting all the people being tested

 

Perhaps people like Dalglish who was apparently tested 'just in case' when he went in for something else not being included.

My father was tested on admission to hospital with a completely unrelated issue, he didn't have any symptoms.

[buckthorn]

The coronavirus travelled all over the world from Wuhan China, but it did not reach Beijing or Shanghai or

other major cities in China.

Can anyone explain how is that possible?
There are so many questions, after all, where it all started, in China, the Chinese stock market did not collapse,
but the American and European markets did, and when those markets collapsed, the Chinese bought a lot.
All roads lead back to China
1. They created a virus for which they already had an antidote.
2. They purposely spread the virus for financial gain.

3. There is a clear demonstration of efficiency to such an extent that they built hospitals in a

few days. To build so many hospitals they had to be prepared with organized projects, for
example, with the ordering of equipment, the hiring of labour, the water and sewerage network,
the prefabricated building materials and the storage in an impressive volume. Everything
happened so fast that everyone was speechless.

4. They caused chaos in the world, beginning with Europe and the rest of the western worlds.

5. Quickly decimating the economies of dozens of countries.
6. Stop production and manufacturing lines in factories and primary production in dozens
of countries.
7. Causing the stock markets to crash and then they bought stocks, bonds and companies at
bargain prices.
8. They then quickly gained control of the epidemic in their country. After all, they were ready
and he was never really out of control.
9. In all this, they managed to lower the price of basic products, including the price of oil.
10. Now they are going back to mass production while the rest of the world is stopped.
Also note how quickly Chinese unions activated to "hoard" purchases of bus cargo to regional
shopping centres across Australia,
stripping our shelves of toilet paper and staple foods.
It happened before most of us knew what was happening, even before we knew what the
Coronavirus was

[honeybee13]

Can we have a link to where you copied that from please, buckthorn?

 

 

[AndyOrch]

 

 

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[unclebulgaria67]

I was watching a news programme earlier and there was an item on how Chinese University  research departments were given official guidance by the Government, that they must not produce any reports on where/how the virus was generated.

 

Definitely questions that will need to be answered, given that research laboratories in Wuhan had apparently been carrying out research into Coronavirus obtained from Bats, before this Pandemic started.  

[brassnecked]

Apparently the USA gave funding to that lab also

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

[cjcregg]

3 hours ago, buckthorn said:

 

There are so many questions, after all, where it all started, in China, the Chinese stock market did not collapse,
but the American and European markets did

 

Slightly misleading picture I'd say. Goldman Sachs estimates that in the first quarter China's economy will contract by a staggering 9% because of C19, when it should have risen by 2.5%.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-toll/goldman-sees-chinas-economy-shrinking-9-in-first-quarter-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21340T

 

 

[buckthorn]

                           The virus

 

The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent virus threat and have therefore raised their threat level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, level may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.”

The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.

The virus has been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let's Get the Bastard.” They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”

The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

Australia, meanwhile, has raised its alert level from “No worries” to “She'll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far, no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

 

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/terrorist-threat-alert/

 

 

[brassnecked]

The Welsh are making Chicken (non chlorinated) and Leek soup, as its known to be nourishing, and help keep the bodies defences up.  Meanwhile ways are being sought to deploy a detachment of the Llandudno Goats at the Border on the A55 to help Heddlu Gogledd Cymru keep the English out, and away from their second homes that make homes unaffordable for locals in places like Abersoch.

[honeybee13]

The comparison of how Greece and the UK have tackled Covid makes interesting reading in this article.

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/16/greece-teaches-the-uk-a-lesson-on-how-to-respond-to-the-coronavirus-crisis/

[brassnecked]

Good find HB, UK Gov are acting all Soviet with Central Command and Control, another take on this here its Richard Nort's son

 

https://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2020/04/corona-rot-at-top.html

[honeybee13]

Yours is a good spot too, thank you.

 

[brassnecked]

The North's have identified where the issues are, sadly there seems to be no solotion to the muppetry.

[tobyjugg2]

On 14/04/2020 at 13:46, brassnecked said:

The Welsh are making Chicken (non chlorinated) and Leek soup, as its known to be nourishing, and help keep the bodies defences up. 

 

I dont think we have to worry too much about American chlorine on the chickens now, they only have time for a quick wave toward the chlorine tank as they speed past now ...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/20/no-way-food-safety-not-compromised-us-regulatory-roll-backs-during-covid-19-criticised

 

'No way food safety not compromised': US regulation rollbacks during Covid-19 criticised

 

"Under traditional poultry processing rules, line speeds ran at 140 birds a minute, and required at least four inspectors to be stationed on each line, tasked with checking carcasses for defects, disease or contamination, including fecal matter which can cause salmonella. That has since been reduced to one inspector per line, with individual regulatory waivers enabling line speed increases.

“It potentially reduces some of the quality control efforts, but I am not concerned about worker safety as a result of the increased line speeds."

 

The workers just need to ensure they aren't hit by a speeding dead chicken as it is fired through the factory ....

 

 

Even before the reduction in

"The line speed increases come as Guardian data analysis reveals that at least one in 10 US poultry slaughterhouses failed government salmonella tests last year. In some categories, failure rates are as high as 34%.

Targets to reduce salmonella disease outbreaks have also been missed, with a rise of 9% in the incidence rate over the last three years according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)."

 

 

So if coronavirus don't kill you, the salmonella chicken soup might ..

[tobyjugg2]

 

https://www.radioplymouth.com/news/international-news/coronavirus-uk-only-formally-asked-turkey-for-ppe-shipment-help-on-sunday/

 

Coronavirus: UK only formally asked Turkey for PPE shipment help on Sunday

"Britain only made a formal request to Turkey over a consignment of personal protective equipment on Sunday - the day after a cabinet minister announced the "very significant additional shipment" was already heading to the UK, Turkish sources have told Sky News. "

 

"Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, said at the government's daily briefing on Sunday that he "hoped" the delivery would arrive the next day.

That did not happen, either."

 

 

"sources also revealed that the manufacturer of the goods bound for the UK only submitted a request to the Turkish ministry of health on Monday for (required) permission to export the gear."

Edited April 21, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[brassnecked]

Should be producing our own.

[honeybee13]

Absolutely we should produce our own. But then you have UK manufacturers saying that the government has ignored their offers of help. They really don't seem to have done much before 1st April.

 

I've also read a headline today [can't remember where atm] about the UK still exporting PPE to Europe.

 

[honeybee13]

Channel4 News have interviewed a previous Chief Scientific Officer who talks about how the UK could have managed the pandemic and about No 10's 'communications police'.

 

 

[hightail]

46 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

Absolutely we should produce our own. But then you have UK manufacturers saying that the government has ignored their offers of help. They really don't seem to have done much before 1st April.

 

I've also read a headline today [can't remember where atm] about the UK still exporting PPE to Europe.

 

I saw that too.  It did say the companies exporting are only doing so after offering to keep it in this country and getting no response. 

[honeybee13]

Thank you hightail, I should have added about the companies getting no response. Actually, the PPE seems to be Chinese.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/20/exclusivemillions-pieces-ppe-shipped-britain-europe-despite/

[brassnecked]

Most PPE is indeed manufactured in China, the benefits of Globalisation and offshoring to keep prices down  the Corporations will crow.  Meanwhile Dr North is having a pop quite rightly i think at Hancock's app for tracing.

 

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87584#disqus_thread

[tobyjugg2]

and just to stress the point a few choice quotes from HB's link

 

"Last week alone the firm packed five million surgical masks, more than a million FFP2 respirators and more than half a million FFP3 respirators stored inside three warehouses in Birmingham and outside Heathrow Airport on to lorries registered in the EU, a source revealed.

The company, which distributes pharmaceutical products across the UK and Europe, buys PPE from factories in China and takes a new delivery every week. Currently it has millions of pounds' worth of PPE sitting in its warehouses, sources said."

 

"Lorries are being packed with masks, respirators and other PPE kit before heading back to supply hospitals in the EU, it has emerged.

 

On Monday night, UK firms said they had “no choice” but to keep selling the lifesaving gear abroad because their offers of help had been repeatedly ignored by the Government."

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Not wishing to detract from the already highlighted and rapidly mounting monstrous failures of Johnson and his cabal, but here's a really rank addition if true:

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2020/04/21/biggest-political-scandal-since-cambridge-analytica-about-to-break-as-fake-nhs-accounts-set-up-by-dept-of-health/

 

"The Department of Health (DHSC) has been tied to a string of fake social media accounts by investigative work that discovered a single sign-on tied to the government department.

John O’Connell spotted the fake accounts and his investigations have revealed that 128 accounts were definitely operated by the same individual – with four ‘assigned contributors’ – and that the individual sign-on belongs to a ‘contracted individual assigned’ to DHSC. There are also a number of other ‘probables’ and ‘possibles’.

 

Around a third of the accounts used photos of actual NHS staff – and of those O’Connell contacted, all confirmed that the accounts were not theirs and the photos had been used without permission:"

 

 

 

SKWAWKBOX view:

This is not the first time that a series of fake accounts has been set up to hide Boris Johnson’s and the Tories’ abuse of our health, health service and health staff.

During the last general election campaign, fake accounts were set up in droves to discredit revelations about a sick little boy forced to sleep on a hospital floor because of a hospital’s shortage of beds.

But this is the first time such actions appear to be definitively connected to an official government department and those acting exclusively on its behalf.

To behave like this in a national crisis, diverting DHSC resources to a campaign to con the people of the country while hundreds are dying each day, in an attempt to distract from Tory guilt and failure, is unforgivable. It deserves to become a government-toppling scandal – but do not hold your breath waiting for the so-called ‘mainstream’ media to pay attention.

Edited April 21, 2020 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

This is the Twitter thread he's talking about. The guy sounds credible.